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Thread: The One Gun Solution (GP Carbine) - Reality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicious_cb View Post
    Thats great and all but are you really going to use that optic in a house? Whats the plan for low light in a structure?
    I figure I'd come back with a more proper response.

    Inside the house, if I were to grab the rifle, it would be the MI offset BUIS and the WML. While not as fast as a RDS, they are quite functional for this purpose. Bear in mind that the MI sights use a single, mid-sized aperture that I've found to be quite usable at close range with white light. An offset RDS would no doubt be a better solution but for now I do not feel seriously disadvantaged.

    Great thread, plenty of very useful insight.
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    My slutty Colt just hits every note:

    Lightweight
    No BS
    FF KAC RAS
    ACOG 4x with the RCO
    CTR stock
    E-Bolt

    Nothing it can’t do. I have other stuff but it’s my bae.

    I’m thinking of doing a clone of sorts like I did with that one LMT upper but with Armalite.

    My HK is my MacBook but my Colt is Linux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    My slutty Colt just hits every note:

    Lightweight
    No BS
    FF KAC RAS
    ACOG 4x with the RCO
    CTR stock
    E-Bolt

    Nothing it can’t do. I have other stuff but it’s my bae.

    I’m thinking of doing a clone of sorts like I did with that one LMT upper but with Armalite.

    My HK is my MacBook but my Colt is Linux.
    I got the email alert that this was posted, expected maybe, you know, Jack or someone has chimed back in or something, slid right down to the content in the email. I’m reading through and thought...this really sounds like Firefly... Scrolled up and, yep. You do not disappoint.

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    I wish to add something.

    I know what my Colt will and will not do. I’m not taking cocky shots at 500 yds.
    LPVOs are the future but the point of this particular rifle is to be simple and light and for me; an ACOG satisfies more than a RDS. At times it has worn an EOtech but I settle for ACOG as daily driver.

    A lot of you are going on about PID(which is important) and hinging it all on optics that (all things considered) are hovering around same max magnification (4x, 6x). I toyed with maybe using an RMR piggy back but it’s too busy. Both eyes open and the ACOG with its nuclear bright tritium kinda helps with quick acquisition itself.

    I just wanted something compact. In everything there is a trade off. I just work around the fixed magnification rather than overload a gun.

    Fastest, firstest, mostest.

    I still like an ACOGed gun because they are clear, small, and tough and I don’t have to think about it too much. Not trying to re-invent the wheel. Just want a rifle that puts in work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    I wish to add something.

    I know what my Colt will and will not do. I’m not taking cocky shots at 500 yds.
    LPVOs are the future but the point of this particular rifle is to be simple and light and for me; an ACOG satisfies more than a RDS. At times it has worn an EOtech but I settle for ACOG as daily driver.

    A lot of you are going on about PID(which is important) and hinging it all on optics that (all things considered) are hovering around same max magnification (4x, 6x). I toyed with maybe using an RMR piggy back but it’s too busy. Both eyes open and the ACOG with its nuclear bright tritium kinda helps with quick acquisition itself.

    I just wanted something compact. In everything there is a trade off. I just work around the fixed magnification rather than overload a gun.

    Fastest, firstest, mostest.

    I still like an ACOGed gun because they are clear, small, and tough and I don’t have to think about it too much. Not trying to re-invent the wheel. Just want a rifle that puts in work.
    I don't know what I hate more on an ACOG, their eye box or the fixed magnification, but no doubt they work well in certain roles and for lots of people. You're absolutely right about the magnification though. I love my 1-10 Razor and appreciate that they were able to bring it in at the same weight as the Gen II-Es, but until I can get something with similar performance that has 4x or 6x AND significantly less weight, the trade off of bulk and weight for an LPVO doesn't seem as worth it anymore. I shot a rifle match yesterday with small plates out to 200 and the average shooters with 6x LPVOs were still struggling quite a bit to see the plates. That said, the number three shooter on that stage had a 10.5 PSA pistol kit and a cheap RDS and he finished a full 30 seconds faster than me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    I wish to add something.

    I know what my Colt will and will not do. I’m not taking cocky shots at 500 yds.
    LPVOs are the future but the point of this particular rifle is to be simple and light and for me; an ACOG satisfies more than a RDS. At times it has worn an EOtech but I settle for ACOG as daily driver.

    A lot of you are going on about PID(which is important) and hinging it all on optics that (all things considered) are hovering around same max magnification (4x, 6x). I toyed with maybe using an RMR piggy back but it’s too busy. Both eyes open and the ACOG with its nuclear bright tritium kinda helps with quick acquisition itself.

    I just wanted something compact. In everything there is a trade off. I just work around the fixed magnification rather than overload a gun.

    Fastest, firstest, mostest.

    I still like an ACOGed gun because they are clear, small, and tough and I don’t have to think about it too much. Not trying to re-invent the wheel. Just want a rifle that puts in work.
    I agree.

    I have tried so many lpvo over the years and I just keep coming back to my acog. I love the FOV, and the lightweight and compact package with clear glass. It can do cqb, excels at intermediate ranges, and you can hail Mary a long shot.

    Just this past year I piggy backed it with an rmr. I guess it helps a little in cqb, but it really is unnecessary once you learn how to us an agog. I will eventually probably take it off and put it on a handgun.

    Now if I am setting a gun up for cqb, I will definitely go with a rds. I thought of putting an acog on my 10.5 for half a second, but quickly realized it didn't make sense for me.

    In the same way if I know I will be shooting far, I want my "DMR" style gun which wears a 3-15.

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    I think y’all are missing the point of the thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman8 View Post
    I think y’all are missing the point of the thread
    It has veered off topic a bit. I listed my 12.5 "one gun solution" and am glad that I withdrew it before it sold. I shot my Knight's 14.5 at yesterday's comp and it felt longer than I remember after shooting my 12.5 and 10.3 uppers for the past few months. So ideal gun has a 12.5 upper, ideal optic for me is still the 1-10 Razor and while I shot it without an offset RDS yesterday and it was still solid, I like the options an offset or top mounted MRDS gives me.
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    It occurred to me that I hadn't shared this picture in this thread, although I began putting this rifle together before this thread started, it's development has been guided in part by the wisdom and thoughts shared in here:



    And while it is no longer in this exact configuration, the main components have not changed significantly.

    Part of the how and why of this carbine is as a nightfighting gun, so when I get NODS, it will get some more IR laser/illuminator goodness.
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    I don’t really want play the optics spiel. But here’s my deal:

    FF KAC RAS: I just like it. Pic rails are universal it maybe adds negligible accuracy and is a one piece pipe. Keymod/dickmod/mlok/HKey/freaking magnets is nice but pic rails are totally universal and will continue to be for at least another 20 years.

    Lightweight: it’s a basic 6920. With a normal none SOCOM barrel. When time comes I will debate what barrel to use but will probably keep it 16”. It will never be suppressed. It’s not meant for that. If I use another muzzle device; it will likely be a vortex.

    No BS: Nothing too proprietary or far out. Barrel gets room to be barrel. 7” rail covers tube and it isn’t loaded down with BS. It has Real Estate. Need to plop on a laser? There’s room. Need to plop on a light? There’s room. Don’t need either? That’s okay. Don’t put it on. It has a KAC Vert grip because it does make a good impromptu brace, was free, and I just like it.

    ACOG 4x with RCO: it’s compact, bright, clear. The eye relief isn’t as forgiving as some optics but it’s not that bad and it is compact. It’s not hanging up on things. It’s in and out of a car or truck. And that particular optic just makes it easier to hit a relatively close target (ie 50 yds) with both eyes open without much difficulty or slowing you down if you use it like you’re supposed to.

    People try to use ACOGs like sniper scopes. No. It’s like the old Colt 3x from the 70s mixed with an Armson OEG. It’s meant to be easier and faster than iron sights. You will never be faster with irons than you will with a reasonable optic of any measure. I know there will be some 17 super stud with 20/10 vision and excellent fine motor control/hand-eye coordination like a modern day Alvin York who can just get sub MOA with A2 irons at 1km like the totality of Arfcom inbetween being a pornstar billionaire. That’s not me. Eyes getting older as well as everything else. I want to be comfortable.

    There are better optics but they don’t give me the compactness I want.

    CTR Stock: Bar None my favorite stock. SOPMOD/B5 close second but the CTR is the modern day 21st century Fiberlite IMO. It has tight lock up. Not too busy. Not garish. No wobble. It’s just a stock that’s a stock.

    E-Bolt: bar none the smartest investment you can make with your AR if you change nothing else. Positive ejection, positive extraction, forgiving with ammo, and it just works. I love LMT but here lately they haven’t had themselves squared away as in times past. I can’t wait for them to be more available.

    Are there better ARs? Yes. Are there better gadgets and handguards? Yep. Better optics? Totally.

    But that’s for instagram. My rifle has been in same configuration for about 13 years with minimal deviation and it does what I want.

    I have one thing in this rifle that I don’t have with any other:

    Time.

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