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    Advice on buying NVG's. ATN PS15's? TNVC PVS14's? Digital NV?

    I'm looking for a set of night vision goggles with a budget between $5k - $7k. My choices are:

    ATN PS15 GEN3's $6000 with a number of free goodies like a MICH mount and upgraded IR Illuminator. Are these goggles able to be powered by an auxiliary battery pack?

    https://www.atncorp.com/atn-ps15-3-night-vision-goggles

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    TNVC Ruggedized PVS14 $7700

    https://tnvc.com/shop/ab-nightvision...vision-goggle/

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    What Digital Night Vision goggles are available for under $10k?

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    No digital, hasn't caught up yet to normal tubes from L3. Still working out latency and refresh times. Check out Steele Industries. You can get some decent fom DTNVGs from them for your budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rrotz View Post
    I'm looking for a set of night vision goggles with a budget between $5k - $7k. My choices are:

    ATN PS15 GEN3's $6000 with a number of free goodies like a MICH mount and upgraded IR Illuminator. Are these goggles able to be powered by an auxiliary battery pack?

    https://www.atncorp.com/atn-ps15-3-night-vision-goggles

    night-vision-goggles-ps15_photo.jpgnight-vision-goggles-ps15_photo (1).jpg

    TNVC Ruggedized PVS14 $7700

    https://tnvc.com/shop/ab-nightvision...vision-goggle/

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    What Digital Night Vision goggles are available for under $10k?

    Stay away from ATN.

    The RNVG’s you posted are very good. They’re both durable and lightweight. Some of them can run an aux battery pack but I don’t think that’s a critical feature for most people.

    Take into account that you’re going to have to spend a good bit more to fully utilize the system such as mounts, helmet, lasers, optic risers etc.
    Last edited by lahunter57; 04-30-20 at 08:31.

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    This looks great, I have a cheap digital NV monocular - ATN PVS14-3. It works very well. Heat dissipation is very suitable for positioning, but you need high enough resolution to get PID (positive ID). By the way, the two best night vision forums are Arfcom and snipershide, maybe you can get better suggestions. You can bargain, of course, it takes a little luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccoooper View Post
    This looks great, I have a cheap digital NV monocular - ATN PVS14-3. It works very well. Heat dissipation is very suitable for positioning, but you need high enough resolution to get PID (positive ID). By the way, the two best night vision forums are Arfcom and snipershide, maybe you can get better suggestions. You can bargain, of course, it takes a little luck.
    I would look at primary secondary before going to Arfcom, way too much derp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tacticaldesire View Post
    I would look at primary secondary before going to Arfcom, way too much derp.
    While true, that section is actually one of the best resources there with knowledgable folks. Also a good knowledge base on the hide.

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    What I suggest more than anything is get around the equipment and if your friends don't have then consider taking a class. Most professional NV Classes like those offered from TNVC have rental options. Your about to make a large investment and not really understanding what your about to buy or its true capabilities can not only be expensive but discouraging.

    If it were me, and Im deep in the NV pool, I would get a really nice white phos PVS-14. Robert at JRH as mentioned should be able to get you a great Night Vision Devices WP 14 for less that $4K with a real 10 year warranty. There are others that can do the same but they will be built on their bench and probably not be able to offer such a strong warranty. J-Arm and Wilcox Mount another $600. Helmet, well that's another subject if you don't already have one. Just be dome with it and buy a B.E. Meyers MAWL. Yes, you will bitch about the price but be extremely happy in the end.

    What is your actual end game? Hunting, start gazing or just want the ability to fight with your carbine while the others are hiding and waiting for the sun?

    You can always add to the system. Nothing at all wrong with bridging two 14's and the weight isn't all that bad. TWO is ONE as they say but if you don't have two NV equipped rifles the idea of splitting for a buddy or loved one is just an idea. There is nothing that a 14 cant do that binos really do better other than offer a bit more comfort when used for extended periods of time. Just so you understand with binos you will not see or have any more field of view over a single 14. With binos both eyes are seeing the same thing and your brain process that slightly better. All that being said having an unaided eye has its advantages in mixed lighting situations and in navigating terrain and reading features. A single 14 works much better and faster if your plan includes a white weapon light and/or pistol. There will come a time in the operation when switching to white light is simply needed and will allow faster movement and produce more information.

    I run and have both set ups and can tell you because I'm scared of the dark I feel naked without a 14 close at hand. NVGs are simply an amazing, game changing piece of equipment. Before guys buy more guns they should be buying NODs

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    Advice on buying NVG's. ATN PS15's? TNVC PVS14's? Digital NV?

    Cheap and night vision do not go together in the same sentence.

    That said info put out buy TNVC (they’re overpriced) and JRH enterprises is solid. Glynn at Night vision incorporated is good albeit a little slow with comms but he’s a small shop iirc. I’d call JRH and talk with them personally.

    RNVGs exist and are probably the cost effective bino solution out there. Photonis tubes are excellent. Everyone typically recommends a PVS14 first which is reasonable. But after 3 months you’re going to want Dual tubes anyways.

    The NV section on TOS is actually pretty decent and there are a lot of knowledgeable people minus the industry dick helicoptering BS.

    ATN is hot garbage.

    We need a dedicated NV sub forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    We need a dedicated NV sub forum.
    That would be awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    We need a dedicated NV sub forum.
    +1

    This would help topics like this one not fall off the “what’s new” cycle. Although, it might not do anything to increase discussion by knowledgeable people beyond what already exists.
    RLTW

    “What’s New” button, but without GD: https://www.m4carbine.net/search.php...new&exclude=60 , courtesy of ST911.

    Disclosure: I am affiliated PRN with a tactical training center, but I speak only for myself. I have no idea what we sell, other than CLP and training. I receive no income from sale of hard goods.

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