Ahmaud Arbery Shooting

[WillBrink]

In this report, McMichael id's Arbery as the person on video responsible for the break ins. New video shows Arbery inside a house under construction. McMichael believed Arbery may have been armed because he put his hands down his pants when he apparently ran into him "the other night". So, it sounds like there was at least one previous incident involving these two people.

In the video, Arbery runs around the right side of the truck and then goes left towards Travis McMichael and attacks him, then is shot during a struggle with the shotgun. Not too smart of a thing to do.

In Georgia, you can make a citizen's arrest. I believe that Travis McMichael had every right to defend himself when attacked. What would people say if Arbery had gained control of the shotgun and shot both McMichaels? Where the McMichaels might be screwed is you actually have to witness the crime in progress.

To me, the smart thing to do would have been to call the police and let them handle it. But the blame for Arbery's death doesn't rest completely on the McMichael's actions, Arbery contributed to his death also by his actions.

If so, that might be the missing piece of puzzle as to why it went 0 - 100 as it did. As I have been saying, I feel something has been missing from story so far. That does make chasing after him a good idea, but makes it less puzzling at least.

[jsbhike]

Because in the document above, it appears that there was at least one previous run in between the two in which McMichael suspected that Arbery was armed. Arbery's intent isn't known as to why he was in at least one construction site. I'm not saying that he should have died because of this. He died when he assaulted Travis McMichael and Travis McMichael defended himself.

Regardless, it is a bad situation all the way around.

Yeah, the document where he makes a claim wildly different than what actually occurred.

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[teufelhund1918]

Yeah, the document where he makes a claim wildly different than what actually occurred.

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What is that? The document is the officer's report. Not McMichael's testimony.

[teufelhund1918]

opps. dt

[WillBrink]

Again, I think he makes various legit points on this event:

He mentions GA law, that he gets yelled at by someone and he bolts, and other relevant facts that may put the law on the side McMichael's:

[Alpha-17]

If unarmed Im taking cover and running away. Ranger 101. Never attempt to fight a battle you know you cant win.

For the record, that's absolutely not "Ranger 101." If we're going to bring military battle drills and thinking into this, the closest analogy would be reaction to an ambush. Initially, it was a far ambush, and Arbery tried to break contact. When that didn't work, it became a close ambush. At that point, the only option is to "turn and burn." Chances are you won't make it, but you stand a better chance of surviving than continuing to run, and you just might take a few of them with you. That's what he did, and I don't think we can fault him for making that decision in the heat of the moment.

[jsbhike]

What is that? The document is the officer's report. Not McMichael's testimony.

So from the same document

"
McMichael stated there have been several Break - ins in the neighborhood and
further the suspect was caught on surveillance video. Mi
his front yard and saw the suspect from the break - ins " hauling ass" down Satilla
Drive toward Burford Drive."

is the gospel, but

"McMichael stated they pulled up beside the male and
shouted stop again at which time Travis exited the truck with the shotgun."

is null and void?

[teufelhund1918]

So from the same document

"
McMichael stated there have been several Break - ins in the neighborhood and
further the suspect was caught on surveillance video. Mi
his front yard and saw the suspect from the break - ins " hauling ass" down Satilla
Drive toward Burford Drive."

is the gospel, but

"McMichael stated they pulled up beside the male and
shouted stop again at which time Travis exited the truck with the shotgun."

is null and void?

Sorry, I'm missing your point. From what I see in the report, they were working on their property when McMichael saw who he thought to be the suspect running down the street. They get their weapons and get in their vehicle and drive to the suspect at which time the confrontation escalates.

[Renegade]

Sorry, I'm missing your point. From what I see in the report, they were working on their property when McMichael saw who he thought to be the suspect running down the street. They get their weapons and get in their vehicle and drive to the suspect at which time the confrontation escalates.

The point is this did not happen:

"McMichael stated they pulled up beside the male and shouted stop again at which time Travis exited the truck with the shotgun."

the video clearly shows they stopped about 50 yards in front of Arbery. It took Arbery 15 seconds running to catch up to the truck.

The rest of McMichael's story is yet to be verified, like saying he saw him on video doing break-ins.

[jsbhike]

Sorry, I'm missing your point. From what I see in the report, they were working on their property when McMichael saw who he thought to be the suspect running down the street. They get their weapons and get in their vehicle and drive to the suspect at which time the confrontation escalates.

The first part where the chase originated isn't on video.

The 2nd part is on video and Gregory McMichael's statement on driving up to him and stopping bears absolutely no resemblance to the reality of what happened as shown on the video.

Did McMichael choose to state
"they pulled up beside the male and
shouted stop again at which time Travis exited the truck with the shotgun." because it sounds better than "they set up a road block with Travis McMichael standing beside the truck with a shotgun while William Roddy Brian in another vehicle was driving the male towards their road block."?

If Gregory McMichael isn't able to differentiate pulling alongside vs. setting up a roadblock, then there is a decent chance his claims concerning what got everything started also deviate from what really happened.