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    My understanding is the father portion of the McMichael father-and-son team had recently retired as a LEO doing investigations for the DA. Two prosecutors have recused themselves.

    Articles covering this have also said that Arbery had already changed his route at least once after the two in the pick-up attempted to block him in. If that's the case, I can better understand the attempt to grab the gun on Arbery's part.

    We will never know all the details, but my take is that the McMichaels had no business attempting to stop and detain Arbery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    Maybe not but we know it is true.

    Systemic Racism is bullshit in todays world. But Racism is still alive and well in far too many people.
    It still exists. Black people are much more likely to get turned down for bank loans and mortgages even with good credit. Resumes with "black sounding" names are less likely to get callbacks. It was mostly black people who were getting stopped and frisked in NYC. The thing is...most of the people responsible for it are the same ones who claim to be fighting it: The leftists who need to keep them oppressed in order to keep them voting. These rednecks and the white supremacists are the outliers and exceptions.
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    When those two men left their property and hit the public streets to chase a man down it became murder.

    They started the pursuit, with guns, and chased down an unarmed man. That man tried to defend himself against two armed attackers and was shot.

    I’m all for lighting up unarmed people up on your own private property. In public streets? Nope.

    So far there was one execution. I’d be happy about about another one for the shooter and 20+ years for the accomplice.

    Yes he ran at them, his only choice, as he rightly knew while he could out run them he couldn’t out run thier bullets. I actually think he was very brave for trying to turn the tables on them and not run away, good for him. Unfortunately it didn’t go well for him.

    Honestly I don’t care if he was a burglar. He didn’t rob the people who murdered him and he wasn’t on their property.

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    Just FYI, the idea of “racism” is a Trotskyist invention to drive division between whites and blacks in the USA. Look into the origins. I’m not, of course, saying there are no prejudiced people. I’m just pointing out the Soviet plan to leverage that small percentage of people’s opinions to weaken the West.

    https://www.mauinews.com/opinion/let...acism-is-dead/

    https://brill.com/view/book/edcoll/9...7/BP000003.xml

    Just a data point.

    I’m not defending a shooting off property not in self-defense, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsp10477 View Post
    Why is race even a topic?
    Because the commies want it to be.

    Everyone hates and wants to catch a thief no matter their skin color.

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    At what point did these two decide that this is a good idea?
    Just saw on the News that there were zero reports of crime in that neighborhood. The whole idea of "protecting my stuff" kind of falls flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron3 View Post
    Because the commies want it to be.

    Everyone hates and wants to catch a thief no matter their skin color.
    Exactly.
    “I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.” – Thomas Jefferson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    When those two men left their property and hit the public streets to chase a man down it became murder.

    They started the pursuit, with guns, and chased down an unarmed man. That man tried to defend himself against two armed attackers and was shot.

    I’m all for lighting up unarmed people up on your own private property. In public streets? Nope.

    So far there was one execution. I’d be happy about about another one for the shooter and 20+ years for the accomplice.

    Yes he ran at them, his only choice, as he rightly knew while he could out run them he couldn’t out run thier bullets. I actually think he was very brave for trying to turn the tables on them and not run away, good for him. Unfortunately it didn’t go well for him.

    Honestly I don’t care if he was a burglar. He didn’t rob the people who murdered him and he wasn’t on their property.
    For the most part I agree with you. We don't have all of the answers but from what we do know, as a 30 year Southern LEO this was not justified in any way. We don't know how much race played, but I believe it would be disingenuous at best to assume it wasn't part of this fiasco. If not the actual shooting then the aftermath. Anyone in the criminal justice system in this part of the world should be embarrassed, appalled, and angry.

    We investigate our own all the time. This was just passing the buck. It also appears the photog was part of the posse. That won't end how Dad/Son thought it would. There were many avenues to do the right thing, both from the posse, the responding cops, and the PA/DA. They all failed. This is murder. Making excuses won't change that. Video doesn't give all the answers but it shows what matters at the time of the shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Business_Casual View Post
    Just FYI, the idea of “racism” is a Trotskyist invention to drive division between whites and blacks in the USA. Look into the origins. I’m not, of course, saying there are no prejudiced people. I’m just pointing out the Soviet plan to leverage that small percentage of people’s opinions to weaken the West.

    https://www.mauinews.com/opinion/let...acism-is-dead/

    https://brill.com/view/book/edcoll/9...7/BP000003.xml

    Just a data point.

    I’m not defending a shooting off property not in self-defense, etc.
    Just FYI, blacks were enslaved, exploited, raped, bought and sold, tortured, and murdered in the Colonies and the USA long before L.D. Trotsky was born in 1879.

    Just a data point.

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    Years ago, I was leaving the house as my Son was running up the street. It was 0400 and still dark, I was headed to work, he was coming in from a run. I had to tell him that he couldn't run in the dark anymore.
    People don't have any common sense and I didn't want my biracial Son to be shot at because he was running in the wrong neighborhood. That's a hell of a lousy bit of knowledge to impart on a 15 year old, but it's sadly necessary.

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