Ahmaud Arbery Shooting

[Joe Mamma]

The neighbor who recorded this event should have been on the phone with professionals, not doing voyeur cam.

Sadly, it seems like it's much more important to capture something on video than make a call or simply be a witness. If the video did not exist, 99.9% of the people discussing this would not even know about the incident. I think leaving it to "professionals" is how this became a bigger problem unfortunately.

Joe Mamma

[Business_Casual]

How is it a knee jerk reaction to suspect that racism might have had a role to play in this case?

Because it didn’t, prejudice did. Racism is what Al Sharpton uses to extort money from companies and get businesses burned down. Prejudice is when a person thinks they know something about an individual or group or assume something about an individual or group.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Is there any part of the video that doesn't show the deceased moving forward and/or the shooter backing up? There will be a good case for self defense. One of the prosecutors had already seen the video and did not see grounds for arrest as the deceased initiated the fight.

[seb5]

Is there any part of the video that doesn't show the deceased moving forward and/or the shooter backing up? There will be a good case for self defense. One of the prosecutors had already seen the video and did not see grounds for arrest as the deceased initiated the fight.

That could be a stretch when they followed him in a truck and attempted to restrict his movement, not even considering two grown armed men............

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Zimmerman/Martin case had somewhat similar characteristics. Martin was walking home and had not been observed committing a crime, though there had been recent crimes in the area. Zimmerman was armed and pursued. Martin initiated the fight. Zimmerman justifiably shot Martin in self defense.

[jsbhike]

Zimmerman/Martin case had somewhat similar characteristics. Martin was walking home and had not been observed committing a crime, though there had been recent crimes in the area. Zimmerman was armed and pursued. Martin initiated the fight. Zimmerman justifiably shot Martin in self defense.

I suspect if Zimmerman hadn't been going on ride alongs with the Sanford PD and lauding them in letters to the editor he would have gotten charged with whatever Florida's version of manslaughter is and likely convicted.

[Averageman]

Zimmerman/Martin case had somewhat similar characteristics. Martin was walking home and had not been observed committing a crime, though there had been recent crimes in the area. Zimmerman was armed and pursued. Martin initiated the fight. Zimmerman justifiably shot Martin in self defense.

A friend and I were just discussing the similarities in these two cases.
Sad but True, I just wish people knew when to think before getting a gun involved. Honestly, I'm not the guy to call the Cops, I would much rather deal with my problems without a call to 911 and asking for an armed mediator to get himself involved in my business.
These two knuckleheads went from zero to complete retard in .4 seconds.

[Renegade]

Mainstream Media says he was chased down and shot by two guys in truck.

Video shows him chasing the truck and then getting engaged with the driver and getting shot.

WTF....

[26 Inf]

Years ago, I was leaving the house as my Son was running up the street. It was 0400 and still dark, I was headed to work, he was coming in from a run. I had to tell him that he couldn't run in the dark anymore.
People don't have any common sense and I didn't want my biracial Son to be shot at because he was running in the wrong neighborhood. That's a hell of a lousy bit of knowledge to impart on a 15 year old, but it's sadly necessary.

I feel your anger, when my daughter was still at home she would walk two blocks out of her way to avoid a house where folks had taunted her about her skin color, even though I had spoken with them about it in very direct terms.

It's true everything isn't about race, but sometimes it is.

Before we adopted our infant daughters we did foster care for several years with two black brothers. They came to live with us when they were ten and eleven, stayed until they were adopted several years later. It was an education being a white guy following two black kids around stores and sometimes seeing how they were treated.

The fact is most of us are very ethnocentric.

[26 Inf]

Mainstream Media says he was chased down and shot by two guys in truck.

Video shows him chasing the truck and then getting engaged with the driver and getting shot.

WTF....

Allegedly he was jogging, the truck passed him and then stopped, apparently for the two men to accost him. He went around the right side of the truck and one of the men advanced to the front of the truck where the confrontation took place.