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    Hey, NickB,
    Are you having any trouble finding ANY "MILK MEN" for mag testing?

    The only one I know of breaking, is the one I put in a vice and squeezed it at the top, and the back cracked. I still have to send it in.

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    Lube with Slip 2000 and be done with it

    Quote Originally Posted by SoDak View Post
    In my quest to make my M4 an all around gun, I recently got to thinking about making it more suitable for use in the cold. About the only addition I can think of right now would be to add a magpul enhance trigger guard or use the elarged trigger guard from the large MIAD grip package so it can be shot while wearing gloves. Can anyone else think of anything that might make an M4 better for cold weather.
    I've done some cold weather testing (-30) with slip 2000. My colts ran fine even when very cold. And I lube very wet.

    Next time I go to fairbanks, I'll leave a couple PMags in the truck and bang them around a little to see what happens. Hell, I've broken USGI mags by just stepping on them. I'm not too concerned about PMags failing.

    I brake shit. I should be a beta tester!!

    Until that day,
    Darkop

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    Cold Weather

    For true cold weather use USGI mags or HK mags no P Mags.
    Pat
    For true cold weather, move the hell away to somewhere that is warmer.

    Criminently.
    I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It's when you know you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what.
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    If you want winter Ready do not even think about a HK Mag.

    Those are the biggest pieces of shit I ahve seen. We had a box of them that was sent back from Afghanistan because they would not work.

    The Ammo guy/full time gun nut took out his purchese card bought the same amount of mags from DSG arms (I had to sign it I was in envy that was alot of mags) with magpul followers and they were good to go.

    This was before PMAGs were out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    I would rather use a magazine that was a known inducer of ED than use CProducts mags for anything other than barrier testing ammo.
    Well said Sir.

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    Well, let's hear about the problems with C Products mags. At the end of 2006, it seemed like everybody thought they were great. Remember how they were selling like mad after the Democrats took control of Congress and the Senate? What's changed with C Products in the last two years?

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    I don't go outside when it's forty below zero.
    Back in the land of Waffle House and sweet tea!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by royta View Post
    Well, let's hear about the problems with C Products mags. At the end of 2006, it seemed like everybody thought they were great. Remember how they were selling like mad after the Democrats took control of Congress and the Senate? What's changed with C Products in the last two years?

    QC went to hell -- 25% failure rate (as in not useable mags) from recent groups I have seen people buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinB View Post
    QC went to hell -- 25% failure rate (as in not useable mags) from recent groups I have seen people buy.
    I picked up ten from Global Tactical in November 2006. I wonder how their QC was then? I remember that was the time when everybody could hardly wait for their teflon coated mags to come out. Mine are the gray ones. I haven't even taken them out of the wrapper yet. Yeah, I know, crazy. I was busy doing other stuff besides shooting my AR-15.
    Last edited by royta; 11-27-08 at 00:22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    Thanks I will test them Also don't take this as a hit I love P Mags I am just concerned about this issue. Also this thread was about winter ready M4's so I feel its a valid concern.
    pat
    So how's that test going?

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