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Thread: “Historic” Ramadan Call to Prayer Echoes in Minnesota City

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    I am concerned that the calls for prayers will cause significant stress to some of our fellow Vets.

    I may just be too tolerant, considering a young sailor got shot by a terrorist Thursday but survived, stopped him from entering the base, and then tucked him in for a well deserved dirt nap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    I am concerned that the calls for prayers will cause significant stress to some of our fellow Vets.
    Doesn’t bother me, or most of my friends. Fireworks do, but nobody cares, nor am I asking them to.
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    I’m just waiting for the city to go full retard and allow goat sacrifices in the streets.

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    I don't see the problem. No different than Church bells, constitutionally speaking, and I'm about as anti-Islam as they come. I chatted about this in a vet group last month when it was in the news. Few vets there likely have a problem with it, and of those that do, it's more of an anti-Islam/anti-all religion thing than honest PTSD. Even still, being against people exercising their First Amendment Rights because it will offend another small minority is the kind of thing we're supposed to be against, right?
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    It wouldn’t cause me trauma, but it creeps me out and I wouldn’t want to listen to it.
    I agree constitutionally it’s the same as church bells, but that crap makes me think of a nasty 3rd world country, and not America.

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    Yea...first amendment and all. What time though? If it is in the wee hours of the night or morning, that is a no go. Noise restrictions apply to everyone. If church bells went blasting in the wee hours of the night for that long, there would be definitely be bitching and understandably so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6 View Post
    Yea...first amendment and all. What time though? If it is in the wee hours of the night or morning, that is a no go. Noise restrictions apply to everyone. If church bells went blasting in the wee hours of the night for that long, there would be definitely be bitching and understandably so.
    They got an exception. Call to first prayer is before dawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    They got an exception. Call to first prayer is before dawn.
    OK, the thing is would they give the same exception to other religions? If not, preferential treatment is not ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    The Constitution protects their rights to religious freedom. Today it is Muslims, tomorrow it is Southern Baptist for what ever reason, and the week following it is Jews.

    That should be the clean by the book answer.

    But that would be a stupid answer, given by a person that knows nothing about Islam.

    One of the principals of Islamic warfare, is to infiltrate the country of the infidel and to slowly make them accept Islam. Islam was founded by a child rapist, murdering psychopath, and it was spread more by the sword and the principles of Islamic warfare, than by hadji's going door to door and say we want to spread to you the good news of a goat humper.

    Socialism/communism and Islam, are outside the pale and never should be allowed to take root in the USA. Problem is 50% of the country is socialist that support Islam taking root in the USA.

    I could tell to a story of a young man that moved into an apartment in French Hill on the east side of Jerusalem about a million years ago. On the 3rd night of Ramadan, after not getting sleep the prior 2 night till like 3 am due to the noise from the arab village across the gully. Seems the 3rd night the speakers all went dead one after the other. M14 with night vision and a can on the barrel took care of the noise.
    I'm all for freedom of religion, I'm opposed to be subjected to a religion. Calls to prayer aren't like a nativity scene, I can choose to not drive by a nativity scene (or a muslim equivalent) and not be triggered. But just as I shouldn't have to listen to my neighbors shitty music, I shouldn't have to listen to any religious broadcast that reaches all the way to my house and annoys me.

    Other people get their "feelz" validated, not listening to that kind of shit is one of the few things I actually get "feelings" about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by czgunner View Post
    It wouldn’t cause me trauma, but it creeps me out and I wouldn’t want to listen to it.
    I agree constitutionally it’s the same as church bells, but that crap makes me think of a nasty 3rd world country, and not America.
    Does that mean the local skin head group gets to broadcast the Horst Wessel prior to their Christian Identity services?

    I don't think a call to prayer is mandatory to practice islam. I think it's a way that they create social obligation. They could group text everyone if they wanted to, people could set their alarm. Seems everyone else has a way to get reminded to go to church without forcing the neighbors to know about it. islam should be forced to conform to that 20th century standard in the US.

    We have church bells but that is why I didn't buy a house blocks away from the church. I paid more so I wouldn't have to deal with them waking me up. But jacklegs yodelling what sounds to my ear like "Allah Snackbar" over a loudspeaker could reach all across town and that's about as troubling to me as Skokie residents being treated to a loudspeaker blasting "duetschland uber alles."
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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