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    Events like this, like Ferguson, like Baltimore etc only continue to prove to me that it's never about "justice", it's just an excuse to act like animals and get loot yourself a new plasma TV.

    They protest criminal acts of police by not only committing their own criminal acts, but in the process destroying their own communities.
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    Looks like the Minneapolis version of the "Roof Koreans" is happening.

    I'm thinking they'll be much better armed, on average, than the 1992 originals.



    ETA: this is shaping up to be a classic. Looting, burning, National Guard, "Roof Koreans," all the elements are falling in place.

    There's even a spinoff. In 1992 there was a small riot in Vegas in sympathy with L
    A. Now there's a spinoff in L.A. from th is one.
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    Sooooooooo... is FL on fire yet?

    Army vet fatally shot by sheriff's deputies struggled with personal issues, ex-husband says

    A Florida woman who was fatally shot Tuesday during a confrontation with sheriff’s deputies was a U.S. Army veteran who had been struggling with personal issues, according to reports.

    Tracy Drowne, 42, had pointed a handgun at the deputies when they responded to her home near Avalon Park about a battery call, the Orlando Sentinel reported.

    “There were issues that she was dealing with,” Drowne’s ex-husband, Salvador Perez, who lives in California along with their two daughters, told the newspaper. "She thought everyone was out to get her and she didn't trust anybody."

    "She thought everyone was out to get her and she didn't trust anybody."
    — Salvador Perez, ex-husband of Army veteran killed by deputies



    Drowne died in a hospital a short time after the 4:30 p.m. incident.

    A neighbor named Andrew Santisteban had contacted the Orange County Sheriff’s Office, claiming Drowne hit him during a dispute involving his 16-year-old daughter, FOX 35 Orlando reported.

    Security-camera footage from the neighbor’s home showed Drowne outside the home, shouting at him.

    “She starts charging at me, still screaming,” the neighbor told FOX 35, “and so I kind of backed up, and she just swings and hits me in the left corner part of my eye there.”
    Tracy Drowne, 42, pointed a handgun at sheriff's deputies when they responded to her home Tuesday about a battery call, according to reports. She died in a hospital after the deputies shot her.

    Tracy Drowne, 42, pointed a handgun at sheriff's deputies when they responded to her home Tuesday about a battery call, according to reports. She died in a hospital after the deputies shot her.

    When the deputies arrived, Drowne pointed a gun at them and they asked her multiple times to drop it, Santisteban said.

    “She didn't and raised it at them, then you just heard three or four quick, boom-boom-boom!" he said.

    The neighbor’s daughter, Madison, said she couldn’t believe how the ordeal ended.

    “I never really thought anything would escalate this far, with the police and everything,” she told FOX 35. “So it was really shocking to see how everything had turned out.”

    The deputies tried to provide medical aid to the woman until paramedics arrived, the Sentinel reported. They were placed on leave after the incident, pending an investigation.

    Because of her personal struggles, Perez and their daughters tried to get help for her but she always resisted, Perez told the newspaper.

    He said she served a number of years in the Army and was deployed at least twice but was never in a combat situation.

    In 2013, while a sergeant first class, she received a U.S. Army Acquisition Award, the Sentinel reported.

    The Florida Department of Law Enforcement continues to investigate the case.

    I wanna go loot me the hell out of an OfficeMax, or a Jos. A. Bank!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex V View Post
    Events like this, like Ferguson, like Baltimore etc only continue to prove to me that it's never about "justice", it's just an excuse to act like animals and get loot yourself a new plasma TV.

    They protest criminal acts of police by not only committing their own criminal acts, but in the process destroying their own communities.
    I have an honest question for you, and I'm not trolling or trying to get into a talking points war- what do you want to see them do instead? I don't agree with the looting and destruction and all that either, but call it a thought experiment if you must. Black Lives Matter was a peaceful protest, a social media campaign, that was hijacked and mocked and counter protested. Kneeling for the national anthem was a peaceful protest that was hijacked, mocked, turned into being about the troops (its not, at all), and completely derailed from being about police brutality and systemic racism. So messaging doesnt work. Peaceful protest doesnt work. And you have a population of people, whether you agree or not, who believe, correctly or incorrectly, that they and their families are being murdered in the streets and will get no justice- what should they do? what would you do?

    EDIT- And I will add those last two questions are little loaded, given we are on a message board mulling over how violent they want to get about wearing a goddamn mask in public places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_War_Wagon View Post
    Sooooooooo... is FL on fire yet?

    Army vet fatally shot by sheriff's deputies struggled with personal issues, ex-husband says




    I wanna go loot me the hell out of an OfficeMax, or a Jos. A. Bank!
    What does this story have to do with anything? If you point a gun at a cop you are going to get shot. Convince me you're not trying to make a point about white people vs. black people with an irrelevant news story.

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    It is interesting. When the topic is 2nd Amendment violations, the quote "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." is usually quick to follow. As much as I hate these protests, it's hard to find a balance in that we would support violence protecting the 2nd amendment, but not violence against murder by the state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_War_Wagon View Post
    Sooooooooo... is FL on fire yet?

    Army vet fatally shot by sheriff's deputies struggled with personal issues, ex-husband says




    I wanna go loot me the hell out of an OfficeMax, or a Jos. A. Bank!
    If you remember a year or so ago a black policeman in Minneapolis fatally shot a white woman who approached his car to report an assault. No riots or looting then.
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    White people do riot. Remember the Bundys? When they got their welfare cut off, they armed themselves, took over public property, fired shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_War_Wagon View Post
    Sooooooooo... is FL on fire yet?

    Army vet fatally shot by sheriff's deputies struggled with personal issues, ex-husband says




    I wanna go loot me the hell out of an OfficeMax, or a Jos. A. Bank!
    I don't care who you are, you can't point guns at the police and expect a good result. Especially in central "we having crocodile for dinner yep" Florida.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J8127 View Post
    I have an honest question for you, and I'm not trolling or trying to get into a talking points war- what do you want to see them do instead? I don't agree with the looting and destruction and all that either, but call it a thought experiment if you must. Black Lives Matter was a peaceful protest, a social media campaign, that was hijacked and mocked and counter protested. Kneeling for the national anthem was a peaceful protest that was hijacked, mocked, turned into being about the troops (its not, at all), and completely derailed from being about police brutality and systemic racism. So messaging doesnt work. Peaceful protest doesnt work. And you have a population of people, whether you agree or not, who believe, correctly or incorrectly, that they and their families are being murdered in the streets and will get no justice- what should they do? what would you do?

    EDIT- And I will add those last two questions are little loaded, given we are on a message board mulling over how violent they want to get about wearing a goddamn mask in public places.
    Sorry, you lost me there. This is 2020, not 1865 or even 1965. The "offended" weren't even alive when the last scourges of "systemic racism" petered out. I don't want to hear that bullshit.

    If you read my posts in this thread, you'll see I think that cop needs to be hung out to dry in the Graybar Hotel. I just don't excuse savage, predictable behavior. Wanna reinforce stereotypes? Well once again, that vibrant community did.
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