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    Quote Originally Posted by Esq. View Post
    That is EXACTLY where things are headed if we don't get out in front of it. Who WANTS to be a cop these days? Seriously- go look at Greg Ellifritz's blog sometime. He's a great guy, very tactically savvy, a great officer by all account. He flatly tells people to not go into Law Enforcement, that people who are already in to develop secondary income so they can leave...Ask any of the LEO's here how many of them are happy in their jobs and not looking to get out etc....

    In my own town, we have TWICE lowered the standards in the last few years related to physical ability and past convictions/drug use for hiring officers. That means that the people who ARE going into Law Enforcement are not exactly as good as they used to be, less qualified, sketchier......With budget shortfalls- which WILL HAPPEN due to decreased tax revenues- our mayor was on TV last week saying even though they are 60 patrol officers short they will not hire more due to Covid related Tax Revenue declines...there will be fewer officers, less training, less new equipment. How does that make the job better/easier and attractive to quality applicants?

    Where does that lead? Pretty soon Alonzo Harris is the NORM in policing. So again, YES, I understand very well the consequences of doing anything. You don't seem to understand or appreciate the consequences of NOT DOING ANYTHING- as history makes very plain.
    My third-party opinion is you two are talking past each other. Both are valid perspectives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Business_Casual View Post
    My third-party opinion is you two are talking past each other. Both are valid perspectives.
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    Dude comes clean and gets it. How many would listen? Powerful:

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    The issue of policing is ultra complex, with no easy answers. Watch Frontline's 'Policing The Police', and you'll not only see the good that the cops are trying to do, but also the stuff that makes people distrust and hate the police. Go to 27 minutes in to see two contrasting stops;

    https://www.pbs.org/video/frontline-policing-police/

    The first stop is made with actual intel, and is a good catch. The second stop they make is B.S. They had zero reason to put hands on that guy, and even less to take him to the ground. But in certain of neighborhoods, contact with the police is actual contact - being stopped and frisked for walking down the street. Maybe I'm just not hearing about it, but if that was happening in white neighborhoods, or to your friends and family on a regular basis, this board would be on fire with comments.

    And it doesn't just happen in Newark, or "liberal cities".

    Anecdotally, I will say that in the small, incorporated city where I live in Los Angeles, I have never seen the police take a white person out of their car during a traffic stop. But I have seen lots of black and brown folk sitting on the curb while the cops go thru their cars. And not just once - I'm talking about lots of times, and we don't have traffic cops, just patrol. Now, did the person they pull over have priors? Warrants? I don't know. All I do know, is that in 15 years I've only seen people of color out of their car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Dude comes clean and gets it. How many would listen? Powerful:



    Wow, just wow....Dude lays it all out......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esq. View Post
    Wow, just wow....Dude lays it all out......
    Sure does. Starts out a bit slow, but once he gets going it's mic dropping stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Sure does. Starts out a bit slow, but once he gets going it's mic dropping stuff.
    That was interesting. He lays it out.

    This was recorded in 2017 it appears. I wonder what has happened to this young man since?
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    Ayoob's take on pushing out to suburbia, worth a read: https://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/...s-and-looters/
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    Good clip Will, thanks, I'm sharing.

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    I just talked to a friend that lives in Seattle, he said that Anitfa was going to expand and a group went to Bellevue which is across Lake Washington from Seattle, and they looted a bunch of places. While a third group headed up to a little town that was started by loggers more up the hills into the Cascade mountains. It seems when the Antifa got there, they were met by hundreds of locals all with guns. Antifa left in a hurry and nothing got broke.

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