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    George Floyd and Minneapolis Police UoF - Rioting

    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWillis View Post
    Yoni, I don't feel as good about this as you do right now. I think this might set a bad tone going forward.

    I truly hope there are ZERO clashes between the military and civilians, I'm not implying you do want them, I just do not want to see that happen.
    Obviously it works in Israel so it’s the way we should handle things here. Obviously.


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    I am against calling out the military, I was speaking with the producer of a national talk radio show this morning when Tom Cotton, called on the President to call out the military. Prior to that call I had a chat with my business partner and we both agreed calling out the regular military might be too much. So the producer liked Cotton's idea. So I went through why I was against it. The other guy that works the phone heard the call and chipped in Senator Cotton needs to remember he is no longer Captain Cotton. I replied that two Colonels that both had served in a tier 1 unit for over a decade a piece out ranked him.

    Having said that I support the President calling the bluff of leftist governors and mayors call out the guard in enough numbers and allow them and the police to take back the streets and end the violence or I will send in the 101st. I think the governors and mayors will fold, under this threat.

    If this was happening someplace other than the USA, I would council the countries tier 1 units to infiltrate the radical group and identify them for arrest or more at a later date. But I would never support in the USA disappearing people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Obviously it works in Israel so it’s the way we should handle things here. Obviously.
    I don't want to go down a rabbit hole, but if Israel had better political leaders, we could have even better results than we do. By the way we have developed techniques which has allowed us to stop 99% of lone wolf terrorism before it even get's started. So yeah we work very well thank you very much.

    I have never said the USA should use Israeli methods against American citizens, so read what I write not what you want to hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I don't want to go down a rabbit hole, but if Israel had better political leaders, we could have even better results than we do. By the way we have developed techniques which has allowed us to stop 99% of lone wolf terrorism before it even get's started. So yeah we work very well thank you very much.

    I have never said the USA should use Israeli methods against American citizens, so read what I write not what you want to hear.
    Curious then how much/many of those methodologies are compatible with American civil liberties and constitutional rights.

    I’m genuinely asking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWillis View Post
    Yoni, I don't feel as good about this as you do right now. I think this might set a bad tone going forward.

    I truly hope there are ZERO clashes between the military and civilians, I'm not implying you do want them, I just do not want to see that happen.
    I also hope that's not the case but this far municipalities and states are playing Keystone Cops, and someone needs to be the adult in the room. I am hoping that the mere suggestion is enough to be a kick in the ass for some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Curious then how much/many of those methodologies are compatible with American civil liberties and constitutional rights.

    I’m genuinely asking.

    A lot of what we do in Israel, could be done here in the USA with no conflict with the Constitution. Some examples are monitoring of social media, we have our way of doing it which helps us identify potential terrorist before they engage in violence. Officers going into riots and marking ring leaders for future arrest.

    But the way we go into email, texting and phone calls, in my view of the Constitution should not be allowed in USA. But the USA passed the misnamed patriot act and now the government hears and reads every thing here in the USA. Good VPN and using only a few messaging platforms will insure private conversations. I will not identify those that have been broken or those that are still secure on a public platform.

    We used to have very liberal use of force against terrorist, but those days are gone. Now Israeli use of force is more restrictive than USA law enforcement faces.

    But let's not hijack the thread. I also still have to answer the powers that be, so I am very restricted in what I can or will say.

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    But the way we go into email, texting and phone calls, in my view of the Constitution should not be allowed in USA. But the USA passed the misnamed patriot act and now the government hears and reads every thing here in the USA.
    I hate to break it to everyone, but read your service terms on everything from Gmail to your Amazon purchases. There is hardly a need for the Patriot Act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Curious then how much/many of those methodologies are compatible with American civil liberties and constitutional rights.

    I’m genuinely asking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I just talked to a friend that lives in Seattle, he said that Anitfa was going to expand and a group went to Bellevue which is across Lake Washington from Seattle, and they looted a bunch of places. While a third group headed up to a little town that was started by loggers more up the hills into the Cascade mountains. It seems when the Antifa got there, they were met by hundreds of locals all with guns. Antifa left in a hurry and nothing got broke.
    Tell your friend to watch his six out there... out here toward the mountains folks usually have their heads screwed on straighter, if it was up to me we'd carve Eastern Snohomish/King/Pierce off from Everett-Seattle-Tacoma and make them a new county called Trump.

    EDIT to add another piece worth reading: https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/...zed-it-all-is/
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    Lynnwood WA, is under curfew as antifa is going north of Seattle to hit new places.

    Guess what, it is not Seattle and Snohomish county SD will not have the handcuffs that Seattle police have been forced to wear.

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