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    Not saying it's ok but it is CA. Most of your rights don't apply in CA.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    Is this tongue in cheek? Muslims oppressed in this country?
    Notice the disclaimer: "Not my thinking".

    If any religion is considered "oppressed", the media will focus on Muslims. You'll get plenty of sympathy from the mainstream media on the Weegers (Uyghurs) in China, but not a word about Christians murdered worldwide by Islamic Extremists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OH58D View Post
    Notice the disclaimer: "Not my thinking".

    If any religion is considered "oppressed", the media will focus on Muslims. You'll get plenty of sympathy from the mainstream media on the Weegers (Uyghurs) in China, but not a word about Christians murdered worldwide by Islamic Extremists.
    Yes, yes Islam is the darling religion of the left. Of course none of the MSM would have step foot in ISIS controlled territory (or did they).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Not saying it's ok but it is CA. Most of your rights don't apply in CA.
    Trying to keep things in perspective. It's not like we're NK or PRC...yet. Things were sort of tolerable until the lock down, then they grabbed for the big brass ring. And now SCOTUS, bless their hearts, covered their backs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    Roberts is an absolute coward. This country is coming down FAST!

    Right now, though, cops aren't in a position to enforce much of anything.
    If you are in a church during a church service they will find the time and personnel to come roll your congregation up.

    If your form of worship is running around with a new TV and pair of sneakers while setting a fire to a store they will stand by and watch.
    “Where weapons may not be carried, it is well to carry weapons.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramairthree View Post
    If you are in a church during a church service they will find the time and personnel to come roll your congregation up.

    If your form of worship is running around with a new TV and pair of sneakers while setting a fire to a store they will stand by and watch.
    Whacky world isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    Is God sovereign over your will or is it free from God? And I respectfully disagree your analogy that God is a chess master. There's no one even remotely good enough to play chess with him...He's just working all things after the counsel of His own will. Like Luther said, the devil is God's devil.

    Your premise about love bears some scrutiny. When you go to heaven, will you ever be able to sin again, will you ever be able to choose to sin again? If so, will your love be then perfected? Jesus could not even choose to sin, but yet was the perfect embodiment of love. Free will and love have nothing to do with each other. The scriptures never define "freedom or liberty" as the ability to choose to sin, but always as the ability to think, speak, and do righteously. Libertarian free will says that freedom is the ability to choose good or evil. What's your best scripture that teaches free will and we'll look at it.
    I will leave the Calvinism vs Traditionalism debate to better men than either you or I. We both appear pretty entrenched in our different views, so debating the issue would be unfruitful. Therefore, I will respectfully agree to disagree with you at this time.
    A person who is not inwardly prepared for the use of violence against him is always weaker than the person committing the violence. - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexHill View Post
    I will leave the Calvinism vs Traditionalism debate to better men than either you or I. We both appear pretty entrenched in our different views, so debating the issue would be unfruitful. Therefore, I will respectfully agree to disagree with you at this time.
    As you wish.

    But keep in mind men and women had to die to believe and proclaim the doctrines of grace. And this and other differences are why the church is rent into pieces and oh so weak. Schism is never a good thing and it's, IMO, one of the reasons the more strident unbelievers couldn't care less what we want or proclaim. To SCOTUS, we're just a bunch of sectarian yahoos that can't agree on much of anything. Somebody is in sin that's for sure.

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    Lol California

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    Trying to keep things in perspective. It's not like we're NK or PRC...yet. Things were sort of tolerable until the lock down, then they grabbed for the big brass ring. And now SCOTUS, bless their hearts, covered their backs.
    Same thing happened after 9-11 with the Patriot Act and a few other things. Still this isn't near as bad as the SCOTUS ruling on Eminent Domain for private use, that now applies to every state in the union and probably is the most blatant violation of the Constitution given the specific wording.

    But this is nothing new. Racists shot MLK and a radical Muslim shot Bobby Kennedy for his policies related to Israel and Johnson gave us the Gun Control Act of 1968. Did absolutely nothing to stop racially motivated murder or murder by muslim radicals but it's still with us.

    Factor in that the CA law is mostly born from Covid safety issues and nobody should be surprised that wagon loads of stupid came along with it and stupid always brings further restrictions on freedom because people can't manage freedom AND responsibility very well.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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