America is burning or how democratic leaders respond to riots

[yoni]

I want to have a thread about the response to the violence, that seems to be almost uniform across the country.

I want to divorce this thread from the original thread on the murder of a man in police custody.

I have served on the riot squad of of the sheriff's department where I was a deputy along time ago. Plus 2 intifadas in Israel.

Let me be perfectly clear back in the day, back in the day we never entertained the idea of letting the riot happen. This seems to be the response across the country of primarily democratic mayors and governors.

You can't bring peace back to the streets of America by letting riots just hopefully burn themselves out. Back in the day, when we kitted up in riot gear and hit the streets in formation, it intimidated the people. Which is the start of ending the riot.

Understand perfectly clear AG Barr wants to investigate who is behind these riots, when it comes to funding.

20 members of Bidens staff have sent money to a fund to bail out rioters in Minneapolis, the fund at this point in time has raised more than $20 million dollars. The creator of the fund needs to be investigated and prosecuted under terrorism laws and RICO.

But if anyone thinks, the future of the USA is not at risk due to open season on police and private property. You would be wrong.

This has been my business forever, I was part of a group that designed what should have been Israel's response to something that had not even happened yet, the Intifada. Israel had a change of Defense Ministers and the program was never picked up. Then years later they picked 1 item out of a very long document and thought it would solve the problem.

These riots need to be taken seriously, but they aren't going to be. Why you ask? Because forces exist that don't care what happens as long as Trump is defeated in November.

[BoringGuy45]

Because forces exist that don't care what happens as long as Trump is defeated in November.

I think they're hoping he will be defeated now. I'm pretty sure they're hoping this turns into a revolution and they can be part of setting up a government where they never had to worry about elections again.

[flenna]

I think they're hoping he will be defeated now. I'm pretty sure they're hoping this turns into a revolution and they can be part of setting up a government where they never had to worry about elections again.

Russia hoax- fail
Ukraine hoax- fail
Hunan flu shutdowns- fail
Nationwide riots- I predict fail.

The ComDems are letting the criminals burn down their own cities. Cities that would never vote R anyways. The only chance they have left is widespread election fraud and cheating.

[63Qcode]

Yoni , your statement about never letting the riot happen was very apt . I just read an article in The American Spectator on line .... "Mayor Moron Destroys America`s Major Cities" , where the author discusses Eugene Methvin`s 1991 NRO " riot primer " where he compares two July 1967 riots in Toledo and Detroit and the response .

Your statement is almost identical to the author`s " The time to halt a riot is right at the start, by pinching off the criminal spearhead with precise and overwhelming force " .
What you do NOT do is try to let a riot just play itself out as was proven in the Detroit riot.

This info has been out there for decades , but the powers to be have chosen to ignore it and gone the appeasement route .... and we see how that is working , just like it did in Detroit in 1967.

That article is still up on the site if you want read it in its entirety .

[prepare]

Russia hoax- fail
Ukraine hoax- fail
Hunan flu shutdowns- fail
Nationwide riots- I predict fail.

The ComDems are letting the criminals burn down their own cities. Cities that would never vote R anyways. The only chance they have left is widespread election fraud and cheating.

This will NO DOUBT happen.

[Dr. Bullseye]

This is almost completely a Leftist problem. It is their people burning their cities. I hate their cities and people. For me, this is watching my enemies at each other's throats. Even law enforcement in these shit holes are bad. What is not to like? I pop corn and curl up with a couple beers every night and watch my enemies re-elect Donald Trump.

[Dump1567]

I agree.

I've been watching cops stand around and doing almost nothing in most of these cities. Not wanting to escalate the situation per their lefty leadership. Some wearing bike uniforms to a riot? Have we learned nothing from the LA riots of 92' (I was there with the 40th MP's). We were on the streets the next day after LA jumped off. Why is it taking these NG units so long to mobilize?

Get out your non-lethal devices and take care of business. I watched Secret Service in DC let officer after officer take abuse & get hurt because "they didn't want to make arrests"?

The only cops I saw doing it right when it first jumped off (per California P.O.S.T. Training) were San Jose, CA. Clearing streets in riot gear, using less lethal munitions, with arrest teams behind the line taking out agitators.

Not sure what a lot of these other big city officers were trying to do? Other than watch their cities get looted and burned. It pissed me off.

[utahjeepr]

So when exactly did arson and looting get removed from deadly force authorizations.

As far as rioting in general, go watch the Reginald Denny video.

Unfortunately this behavior has been excused and even glorified time and again. It would be political suicide to try to stop a riot at the beginning. Hell, violence and terrorism are often defended as being political speech.

[Evel Baldgui]

Not sure what to make of this whole insanity happening now. In a few days the riots should end or simmer down, clean up begins and quiet will settle. The cities affected, as noted, are mostly democrat controlled where the police are ordered to take a 'soft touch' Seattle, NYC, Minneapolis, for example, thus allowing the destruction to occur.. Haven't heard much on the news about other smaller locales, cities in places like Iowa, Nebraska, Montana, Alabama etc. Perhaps in these areas only peaceful protest demonstrations occurred and not riots, hence no media attention.
I must say if events like those fear driven Minnesota NG bozos shooting (?pepper balls) at soccer mom Sally on her porch get more prevalent or common then the situation will change and any support for LE/NG will dissipate quickly. This coming from a very conservative, law and order supporting, rich white guy. IF LE /.gov loses the support of many people like me, my associates, friends, coworkers, which they are on the cusp of doing, then I fear for the nation.

[just a scout]

I think they're hoping he will be defeated now. I'm pretty sure they're hoping this turns into a revolution and they can be part of setting up a government where they never had to worry about elections again.

Exactly this.


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