Defunding the Police and the War on Cops

[titsonritz]

So we've got rioters attacking and in some cases killing police, mayors calling cops killers, Portland wants to get rid of SRO, (yeah, that'll make the schools safer) and entire SRT saying F' you and quitting. Police are tasked with an incredibly difficult and many times thankless job, most do it with honor and integrity but every once in while some asshole kills some other worthless asshole and all hell breaks loose. Is it time to "defund" the police like some are screaming for or would that make matters far worse? I know there is no way in hell I'd work as a cop in one of these major cities that tie their hands and allow criminals and homeless to rule the streets and demonize the police for trying to do there job. Shitty time to be a cop.

Nationwide protests over the Minneapolis police killing of George Floyd, the latest in a long string of high-profile slayings of black men by white officers, have featured a common rallying cry: “Defund the police.”

The movement predates the current protests and is driven both by anger at the militarized posture of many U.S. police departments and by the recognition they are being called on to confront social ills including addiction, mental illness and homelessness that, advocates say, could be better addressed by spending on social services and rethinking what behaviors should be considered crimes.

Demands on streets from New York to Los Angeles have given higher prominence to the idea, drawing the attention of big-city mayors and on the presidential campaign trail.


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Portland Public Schools cutting school resource officers

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[Esq.]

So we've got rioters attacking and in some cases killing police, mayors calling cops killers, Portland wants to get rid of SRO, (yeah, that'll make the schools safer) and entire SRT saying F' you and quitting. Police are tasked with an incredibly difficult and many times thankless job, most do it with honor and integrity but every once in while some asshole kills some other worthless asshole and all hell breaks loose. Is it time to "defund" the police like some are screaming for or would that make matters far worse? I know there is no way in hell I'd work as a cop in one of these major cities that tie their hands and allow criminals and homeless to rule the streets and demonize the police for trying to do there job. Shitty time to be a cop.

Nationwide protests over the Minneapolis police killing of George Floyd, the latest in a long string of high-profile slayings of black men by white officers, have featured a common rallying cry: “Defund the police.”

The movement predates the current protests and is driven both by anger at the militarized posture of many U.S. police departments and by the recognition they are being called on to confront social ills including addiction, mental illness and homelessness that, advocates say, could be better addressed by spending on social services and rethinking what behaviors should be considered crimes.

Demands on streets from New York to Los Angeles have given higher prominence to the idea, drawing the attention of big-city mayors and on the presidential campaign trail.


U.S. protesters call to 'Defund the Police.' What would that look like?

LA Mayor Garcetti Calls His Cops 'Killers.' The 'Killers' Just Sent a Reply to the 'Unstable' Mayor

Portland Public Schools cutting school resource officers

57 Buffalo cops resign from response team after officers suspended for shoving 75-year-old man to ground; DA investigating incident

"Just call the police".... lol, lol, lol.....

In case you haven't been paying attention these are the rules:

1. Nobody is coming to save you.
2. Everything is your responsibility.
3. Save who needs to be saved.
4. Kill who needs to be killed.
5. Always be working

[Straight Shooter]

So, to ask what is more than likely a stupid question..what does "defund the police" actually mean?
Does it mean-NO local, state or federal money for a police force? No police at all?
Are they actually calling for our society to not have police? Or am I missing/not understanding the term "defund"?

[SteyrAUG]

That's such an incredibly bad idea that will make supporters regret the day they first contemplated it that I almost wish it would happen. You think cities are burning now, just wait.

The reason the Rodney King riots got so out of hand is because the cops pulled out and left everyone to handle whatever on their own. The only ones up to the task were a group of Koreans. The day the police abandon NYC, Chicago or LA is the day those cities burn to the ground.

[jpmuscle]

That's such an incredibly bad idea that will make supporters regret the day they first contemplated it that I almost wish it would happen. You think cities are burning now, just wait.

The reason the Rodney King riots got so out of hand is because the cops pulled out and left everyone to handle whatever on their own. The only ones up to the task were a group of Koreans. The day the police abandon NYC, Chicago or LA is the day those cities burn to the ground.

We now live in clown world where attempting to highlight the lack of accountability of black democratic lawmakers, if not liberal politicians in general, in these cesspool cities is vehemently regarded as racist.

They deserve the outcome of whatever choices they make.

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[SteyrAUG]

We now live in clown world where attempting to highlight the lack of accountability of black democratic lawmakers, if not liberal politicians in general, in these cesspool cities is vehemently regarded as racist.

They deserve the outcome of whatever choices they make.

https://www.facebook.com/robsmithbk/...24198526/?vh=e

Video won’t imbed but if anyone bookfaces it’s relevant


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Only problem is those trapped behind the lines who don't support such idiocy don't deserve the consequences. Otherwise, yeah...it's getting pretty bizarre lately.

[BoringGuy45]

I actually agree, to a point, that more funds SHOULD be put towards social services that could take the burden off of the police. Cops are called to solve problems that usually require master's degrees to solve, and with only about 8 hours of crash course training. It didn't used to be that way. Other mobile crisis services did used to exist in many cities, but were disbanded due to budget. But because the problems didn't go away, the cities just made the cops, the only ones available, do it. With more specific services like that, you actually could reduce the size of PDs, as their call volumes would be greatly reduced.

That being said, the people calling for this have a pipe dream that police are unneeded, and that social work and community conflict resolution groups can completely render law enforcement obsolete. Sorry, that's just not gonna happen.

[jpmuscle]

Only problem is those trapped behind the lines who don't support such idiocy don't deserve the consequences. Otherwise, yeah...it's getting pretty bizarre lately.

No they do not. But they’re the only ones who can do anything about changing unfortunately.


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[SteyrAUG]

I actually agree, to a point, that more funds SHOULD be put towards social services that could take the burden off of the police. Cops are called to solve problems that usually require master's degrees to solve, and with only about 8 hours of crash course training. It didn't used to be that way. Other mobile crisis services did used to exist in many cities, but were disbanded due to budget. But because the problems didn't go away, the cities just made the cops, the only ones available, do it. With more specific services like that, you actually could reduce the size of PDs, as their call volumes would be greatly reduced.

That being said, the people calling for this have a pipe dream that police are unneeded, and that social work and community conflict resolution groups can completely render law enforcement obsolete. Sorry, that's just not gonna happen.

Actually from the logical "fix a problem" perspective such as the one you advocated, I would tend to agree with that position as well. Law enforcement, for better or worse, has largely become a "one size fits all" social solution. Part of the problem is we have dangerous individuals walking around free that once upon a time would be institutionalized but now they are simply medicated into a sometimes compliant state and at the other end of the spectrum you have people calling the cops because "my kid stole my weed."

[HardToHandle]

Isn’t defunding just the Purge in action?