Defunding the Police and the War on Cops

[Vic79]

This is going to be...........awesome!
I’m sorry people of Minnesota but this is the one time I’m really hoping things just go off the rails.

[BoringGuy45]

At what point does the Federal Government step in? Does it step in? Does it become a states rights issue? Does a state have the right to let a city this size destroy itself? How can any business function or obtain insurance in a security vacuum in the magnitude that they are trying to create? How can you insure your own personal property when the new process is to call your insurance company instead of the police when your car is being stolen or was stolen? How can you secure the airport? I am guessing MSP would have to turn into BIAP, T-walls included. Flying through there would be insanely expensive. How can the airlines even get fuel delivered without having to pay off the warlords or obtain significant security to deliver?

The amount of money we paid off Iraqis and Afghans to NOT destroy stuff is in the tens of Billions. Is this the goal?

Target
Best Buy
Delta
Wells Fargo
United Health Care
US Bank
General Mills
Cargill
3M

Hundreds of thousands of employees....

I don't know how many of them are laid off right now but with no police those companies are going to have to bail out hard and fast.

Does Edina just build a wall around the whole suburb?

I'd say to all outside governments: DON'T step in. These idiots won't listen; it's time they learn the hard way. Keep the chaos contained; don't save Minneapolis until they beg for it.

[ryanm]

Its going to be a leftist hellscape. What's sad is business owners are sitting outside their stores with guns, won't be long before they are shot or murdered by criminals for those guns. This has played out many times in many places. I guess we get to do it again, but in the US. New reality TV show, gangs of Minneapolis. Don't get off the interstate.... You will honestly have to know which gang controls which exit to get off, if you just blindly wander through it's going to be a new experience.

[SomeOtherGuy]

I'd say to all outside governments: DON'T step in. These idiots won't listen; it's time they learn the hard way. Keep the chaos contained; don't save Minneapolis until they beg for it.

Detroit was treated somewhat like this, and it's not exactly a success story for anyone involved.

I'm all for giving the rioters exactly what they deserve. But a majority of Minneapolis didn't riot and isn't involved. Are you saying that the law-abiding, career-working people in other parts of Minneapolis should lose 95% of the value in their house because of the actions of idiots across the city and some really awful politicians? You want to abandon a couple hundred thousand decent people to their fate because of other people who happened to be in the same political subdivision?

FYI, Detroit was the "Paris of the Midwest" through the mid-1960's, considered much nicer than most other cities in the US at that time. An entire generation lost a huge chunk of their wealth following the 1967 riots and its political aftermath. Likewise Minneapolis was considered a prize city in the US up until a couple weeks ago. That changed in the blink of an eye.

I don't expect any happy ending here, but it's short-sighted to think that abandoning the whole thing is just to those who didn't riot. They are not all far-left types who produced this disaster. They may have been blind to the danger, but that doesn't make it their fault. (I have no relatives, friends, or investments in Minnesota, just in case anyone's wondering - but I have seen this play out before in Chicago and Detroit, where it did affect my extended family.)

[ryanm]

Edina is going to need a 40ft wall patrolled 24/7 by ED209s

France Avenue and Interlachen/50th new DMZs. Team up with Minnetonka and Bloomington.

[BoringGuy45]

Detroit was treated somewhat like this, and it's not exactly a success story for anyone involved.

I'm all for giving the rioters exactly what they deserve. But a majority of Minneapolis didn't riot and isn't involved. Are you saying that the law-abiding, career-working people in other parts of Minneapolis should lose 95% of the value in their house because of the actions of idiots across the city and some really awful politicians? You want to abandon a couple hundred thousand decent people to their fate because of other people who happened to be in the same political subdivision?

FYI, Detroit was the "Paris of the Midwest" through the mid-1960's, considered much nicer than most other cities in the US at that time. An entire generation lost a huge chunk of their wealth following the 1967 riots and its political aftermath. Likewise Minneapolis was considered a prize city in the US up until a couple weeks ago. That changed in the blink of an eye.

I don't expect any happy ending here, but it's short-sighted to think that abandoning the whole thing is just to those who didn't riot. They are not all far-left types who produced this disaster. They may have been blind to the danger, but that doesn't make it their fault. (I have no relatives, friends, or investments in Minnesota, just in case anyone's wondering - but I have seen this play out before in Chicago and Detroit, where it did affect my extended family.)

I think at this point it's inevitable; even if the feds did intervene, if Trump loses in November, Biden would probably just pull them out. If Minneapolis' government is hellbent on this idiocy, it's going to happen. If the feds want to help, they need to assist in any way possible to help those who want to get out do so, and make sure they are able to stay afloat as they relocate. Let the nutjobs have their little social experiment.

The difference between Minneapolis and Detroit is that the temperature in the pot was set to low in Detroit. Not so much here.

[Vic79]

Detroit was treated somewhat like this, and it's not exactly a success story for anyone involved.

I'm all for giving the rioters exactly what they deserve. But a majority of Minneapolis didn't riot and isn't involved. Are you saying that the law-abiding, career-working people in other parts of Minneapolis should lose 95% of the value in their house because of the actions of idiots across the city and some really awful politicians? You want to abandon a couple hundred thousand decent people to their fate because of other people who happened to be in the same political subdivision?

FYI, Detroit was the "Paris of the Midwest" through the mid-1960's, considered much nicer than most other cities in the US at that time. An entire generation lost a huge chunk of their wealth following the 1967 riots and its political aftermath. Likewise Minneapolis was considered a prize city in the US up until a couple weeks ago. That changed in the blink of an eye.

I don't expect any happy ending here, but it's short-sighted to think that abandoning the whole thing is just to those who didn't riot. They are not all far-left types who produced this disaster. They may have been blind to the danger, but that doesn't make it their fault. (I have no relatives, friends, or investments in Minnesota, just in case anyone's wondering - but I have seen this play out before in Chicago and Detroit, where it did affect my extended family.)

I hope it’s as bad as you think it’ll get. Maybe the portion of the country that hasn’t lost their ****ing mind will be able to look at that and what a disaster it is then use that as an example. I’m sorry that sucks for the people of Minneapolis. That also sucks for the people that didn’t vote in a pussy mayor and governor.Unfortunately they will have to learn the lesson the same as everybody else. I never thought I would say this but I’m honestly in the burn it all down stage.

You don’t want to police patrolling in your hood fine. Don’t call them or EMS when your son or daughter gets shot. You can use Chicago as an example of this. They should be able to help you get started fairly quickly.

[Averageman]

I'm not exactly sure when Civil Disobedience turns in to Violent Insurrection, I don't have words for some of the shi+ I've seen lately.
But, I'm just going to say, this is looking very much like Violent Insurrection at this point to me.
This isn't one State and it couldn't have been done without cross talk between groups and organizations, with that and the destruction, violence and looting I would deploy Troops.

[ryanm]

They are definitely trying to go all in
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/min...-crime-victims

[ryanm]

Mayor of LA called his police officers killers yesterday