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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Not if the reality of it doesn't get out to the average MSM-addled mouthbreather... Trump needs to make this the face of the Democratic Party.

    And gun advocates need to do same--THIS is the reason why we so "bitterly cling" to our hardware, just in case shit like this decides to try to come to our neighborhoods and burn OUR houses. (As noted in my signature... )
    Yeah, it has to get out there. This isn't pizzagate or some easily dismissed nonsense. This is a admittedly small scale illegal land grab. But one that denies all civil rights to the citizens trapped in this 6 block area. If the NRA created NRA land where people had to show their papers, move past enforced roadblocks and have elements of the community you don't support forced upon you that is basically hostage taking.

    This isn't a bunch of like minded individuals who went out in the middle of nowhere and set up a commune, they took over part of an American city. They also showed it can be done under the right conditions and so far NOBODY will do anything. How it hasn't already happened in San Fransisco is amazing to me.

    People sectioning off parts of LA, NYC and Chicago can come at any time as soon as mob rule gets approved like it did in the Rodney King riots. I really wouldn't want to be in any of those places.

    In the 1980s Robert Mathews and a racist group called The Order conspired to do the very same things, to establish a white homeland within the US (ironically in the Pacific Northwest) and Federal agencies basically eliminated them. Granted The Order was violent and killed people, but had they tried to create a White Homeland simply by "sitting in" and presenting it as a street festival they still would have gotten shut down hard.

    And again, the usual suspects like the SPLC are painting this event more like woodstock than a land grab that makes hostages out of anyone who doesn't support the movement. The mayor is giving tacit approval if not direct support and how that isn't a violation of her oath of office is beyond me. She needs to be removed from office.

    Then we can talk about the direct assault on a law enforcement department and the seizure of the same. In 2016 almost nobody wanted Trump, we all looked for alternatives on both sides. But when it became obvious it was going to be Hillary, despite objections from both sides people refused to have it forced upon them and they were told about the war on women and how they were sexist if they didn't vote for her. Well they are gonna be pushing a lot harder in 2020 and this is the beginning of what is apparently their terrible strategy for a "new world order."

    And if it becomes apparent that the authorities are NOT going to enforce order and restore things, then it is going to get F ing scary, and messy and bloody and violent.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elephant View Post
    So, some more questions:

    1. How should we feel about this? Me personally, I am between angry and disgusted.

    2. How should we go about this? Can this happen in any city in the nation? If so, what are our options? To me, it seems like shit like this spreads like wildfire. Sooner or later, they will try this at colleges, small hipster towns, or sections of large cities. They already close off major highways during protest and have caused many police departments to abandon their post.

    3. Is this a new normal for us? Or is this "here today, gone tomorrow'? I personally hopes this passes and just a phase. On the other hand, I feel like a lot of these social justice vigilantes will get worse.

    4. Does this have anything to do with Trump and being an election year?

    5. Is this being endorsed by anyone of importance? Soros, Pelosi, Schumer. Waters, AOC etc?
    1. Concerned and in standby mode.

    2. It can happen anywhere where people will tolerate it.

    3. It's not really anything new. It's just a different version of what we've seen before. The WU underground declared war on the US. They were willing to kill every man, woman and child because they felt themselves at war with the country and everyone in it. They just weren't terribly successful.

    4. Always but it can work against them. Keep in mind these are the same people who pulled that Occupy Seattle shit.

    5. All the usual suspects PLUS everyone currently kowtowing to the BLM movement like Amazon, Netflix, Google and dozens and dozens of others who want to make the death of Floyd the responsibility of every white person because they wish to divide everyone by race. White people must apologize for being white and surrender some of that privilege. This is so far from trying to reach racial equality it isn't funny, this is blatant racism to fight perceived racism.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Trump needs to leave them alone. This area of Seattle is already a far leftist haven, and let them show the rest of the country how stupid this movement is. Going in there to break them up just gives them images of the police they will use as propaganda. Right now they are a laughing stock to any sane person.

    Things will get worse. Cancel culture is a real thing that is going to turn violent. Protect your online identity, keep things private on any social media, and be careful of who you allow to view your posts. An angry leftist can easily call up your employer and tell them all about how you're posting white supremacist literature, firearms pictures, and how you seem angry or violent.

    You absolutely have to talk to your friends, family, and neighbors to let people know what is going on (if you can trust them), and remind them to vote. This country is ****ed but 4 years is more time for us to prepare. If we lose the WH and Senate we're going to be living in hell on day one of Biden being in office, and they're going to exact revenge on the country for electing Orange Man Bad. Listen to Biden's comments on 10-15% of the population. The last 3 Democrats to run have made comments about people like us being irredeemable, bad people, deplorable, etc. When people make threats take them at their word. These aren't 20 year old Antifa misfits posting stupid shit on Twitter. These people are running for the highest office in the country. Don't forget about Bill Clinton's attacks on right wing targets during his administration.

    Do what you can to network and prepare with like minded people. When the communist hordes and their inner city 'allies' come to the suburbs and rural areas sticking together and having a group for protection is your only hope of safety. Start looking at and thinking about how to protect your neighborhood and how you can connect with neighbors to form watches. Look at ways to harden your home from fire and thrown objects. Things like window film, fire extinguishers, door hardening, go bags, exfil plans/routes, caches and stashes. Get your family at least familiar with shooting various firearms, self defense, and basic tactics like cover/concealment/moving as a group. Look at radio communications for your family/neighborhood. Neighborhood issues also mean identifying people who are or could become threats from within. Don't forget 'stop the bleed' medical knowledge and supplies.

    Educate yourself on communist revolutions and how they progress. What we are seeing now has been done numerous times before. These people have been doing the same for decades and been training for this for a long time. Antifa has been sending people overseas to train, and they communicate with their 'comrades' around the world. The average American has little to no concept of who these people are or what they actually want to carry out. America has been a target for revolution for a hundred years or more and the plans for a cultural revolution leading to a sudden violent takeover have been around for almost as long. Start reading about Antonio Gramschi and how the Soviets seeded our country with funding of communist and black power groups in the 60's. Read about counter-revolutionaries and how they fought back. You can learn from history on how these have gone down, and how people fought against them. Learn to use what's around you already, easy to acquire supplies to help you survive, how to navigate through society, and how to handle various scenarios.

    A lot of this stuff should already be in the inventory or on your mind for natural disasters. Preps and plans can also be used for hurricanes, tornados, power outages, winter storms...but now they need to include social unrest, runs on grocery stores, supply chain interruption, riots, and intentional acts. There are also many opportunistic crimes taking place right now because police are pre-occupied or not putting themselves out there for their own safety.

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    The voters in Seattle have elected and re-elected Marxists so it seems to me that they have reaped what they’ve sown. If they ever get tired of this, maybe they will recall the idiots. At the rate Police Officers have been resigning and retiring lately, they might not have enough Officers to man that precinct anyway. If you’re “damned if you do and damned if you don’t” sometimes it’s best to do nothing. Canceling EBT Cards would probably be the most effective tactic.

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    Peter, is that you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Evel Baldgui View Post
    So, if my house is declared to be an anonymous zone and no longer part of the USA, can I forget about paying taxes in July ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by elephant View Post
    CHAZ, Free Capital Hill, whatever you want to call it. What are your thoughts? Apparently those involved are now extorting local business inside the 6 block area. They have: as seen on twitter, several "armed guards" in the area. The police department in that area was abandoned in the last several days. Was this planned or act of randomness?


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capito...utonomous_Zone
    If I had Property there, I would be looking at the legal ramifications of taking it back by force.

    On a serious note, I dont know if the federal govt can do anything, but the Governor should be sending in the natl guard, with live weapons, to take it back. It should have been done immediately.

    I wonder if the ATF is going to waco it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    If I had Property there, I would be looking at the legal ramifications of taking it back by force.
    If they've set themselves up as being outside the US, and are in open insurrection, what legal ramifications should there be? I'm sure the Leftists would raise three types of hell over anyone squashing this little Paris Commune Reenactment, but they're squating, looting, and extorting people that live in the area at the very least, and are in open rebellion/invasion of the United States and are terrorizing their communities. I don't know that I think they're enough of a threat to justify governmental force being used against them, but if a citizens' militia squashed this bug, I'm wouldn't defense of the lives of yourself and others be a primary factor?


    I tend to alternate between "eh, this is amusing, let's go get target practice" and "as sad as it is, it's a sign of things to come." I'm surprised they've lasted this long, actually, and even more surprised that they haven't become a magnet for the other side.
    It's f*****g great, putting holes in people, all the time, and it just puts 'em down mate, they drop like sacks of s**t when they go down with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    Trump needs to leave them alone. This area of Seattle is already a far leftist haven, and let them show the rest of the country how stupid this movement is. Going in there to break them up just gives them images of the police they will use as propaganda. Right now they are a laughing stock to any sane person.
    I --hope-- Trump is simply giving them more rope to hang themselves. I hope he is just taunting them to dig their grave deeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    For some great perspective on this listen to Ben Shapiros last 2 pod casts...
    I did just that. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    I --hope-- Trump is simply giving them more rope to hang themselves. I hope he is just taunting them to dig their grave deeper.
    This. I hope he doesn't do anything other than talk about it and tweet about it. Continue to call out local and state leadership over it. Sending in federal troops would be very bad optics even if 100% justified. Letting the communist and anarchist capital of the US implode on itself seems like a better course of action.

    I would bet many of the business owners in that area are at least sympathizers with the retard movement and are willing forking over protection money to ease their white guilt.
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