M855 to be replaced in 2009

[Failure2Stop]

More importantly, Crane (http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2009infantr...ioniii8524.pdf) has now publicly acknowledged the existence of the SOST cartridges, the 5.56 mm 62 gr Mk318 Mod0 OTM and 7.62x51 mm 130 gr Mk319 Mod0 OTM. These are non-bonded versions of the ATK TOTM projectile made for the Marine Corps Barrier Blind RFI, as noted on page 12 of my NDIA briefing from last year. The SOST rounds are optimized for relatively short barrel weapons, use heat stable, flash suppressed powder, and offer good terminal performance, with early upset and reasonably good intermediate barrier performance for a non-bonded projectile. Chuck Marsh and the folks at Crane deserve a standing ovation for this well designed and implemented project--Bravo Zulu!

Yay! We can talk about this now!
Is there any news about implementation of the SOST to conventional units?
Have they been cleared through JAG yet?

[Jack-O]

WOW!! Thats a huge change in stuff!!

What is the metal used in the nose of the 556/762?

Can you tell us the accuracy requirement of the 300 winmag?

[Iraqgunz]

Since JAG has already approved OTM rounds in the past, wouldn't this just be a rubber stamp?

Yay! We can talk about this now!
Is there any news about implementation of the SOST to conventional units?
Have they been cleared through JAG yet?

[Failure2Stop]

Since JAG has already approved OTM rounds in the past, wouldn't this just be a rubber stamp?

I really have no idea.
It would make sense though.
It may have been done long ago.
I would just like to get it without the SCAB luggage .

[Beat Trash]

Wow,

The 5.56mm loading (MK318 MOD 0) looks to be real interesting.

What would the chances be of this becoming available to LE/Civilians in the future?

[Nathan_Bell]

??

Is there something I can help you with?

I would imagine that is due to the potential for ATF declaring it AP and killing a source of ammunition. That is how I took it.

[dookie1481]

Wow a 130 gr OTM 7.62? WTF is this flying out of? That ain't going far...

Jay

[tpd223]

I don't think that one is supposed to fly far, I'm pretty sure it's for knocking the crap out of smelly bearded men at close range, maybe in the 13" barrel Heavy SCAR.



http://world.guns.ru/assault/as70-e.htm

[dookie1481]

I don't think that one is supposed to fly far, I'm pretty sure it's for knocking the crap out of smelly bearded men at close range, maybe in the 13" barrel Heavy SCAR.



http://world.guns.ru/assault/as70-e.htm

Yeah I kinda figured that...just never heard of a 7.62 that light in the military...though I fired a 110 gr OTM into some field expedient ballistic gelatin and it was interesting...

Jay

[DocGKR]

Mk318 Mod0 5.56mm barrier round w/62 grain reverse drawn jacketed bullet: NSN 1305-01-573-2229

Mk319 Mod0 7.62mm barrier round w/130 grain reverse drawn jacketed bullet: NSN 1305-01-572-8492

Mk316 Mod0 7.62mm special ball, long range w/175 grain Sierra Match King bullet with Gold Medal match primer: NSN 1305-01-567-6944

Mk248 Mod1 300 Win Mag Match w/ 220 grain Sierra Match King bullet: NSN 1305-01-568-7504