Rasmussen Poll- 34% of Americans feel Civil War likely within 5 years

[gaijin]

I’m sure a number of us are not content resting on our laurels, but in fact DO train to maintain and improve skill sets.

[Core781]

I’d rather overestimate than underestimate. I mean obviously these guys aren’t better or even close to on par with a Tier 1 military unit or something. I’m not even saying they are necessarily better than most of the people on this site. But what I am saying is that the armed Left are actively working at getting better, while a lot of the Right is content to rest on its laurels and just assume that “someday” if bullets start flying, we’ll prevail by default. By that point though, the Left will potentially have had time to get pretty good at this shit.

I recently noticed a property inhabited by foreign military aged males wearing distinct military camo from a nation I will not mention. Im guessing they are security for a wealthy neighborhood being constructed: likely for a single wealthy family. But it puts things into context: they could be mercenaries hired by wealthy Marxists or Globalists. These could be the paramilitary threat we will face sooner or later. As Cpt. Price says: Stay frosty.

Circle10: there are many “conservatives” that are heavily involved in emergency management and community service organizations. They get together on a weekly basis. They are armed and train weekly. It sounds like you would benefit from joining a local community org and just understand this is commonplace across the nation. Most orgs can respond to the threat levels locally or at least adapt to it. In our very rural region we have very well prepared organizations who are significantly more advanced than the threats. Do your research and join an organization that is aligned with your perspectives. I used to view our regional militias as nutters when I was young and foolish but I now understand the value of a well regulated militia, and during these challenging times I believe we can all appreciate them.

Sustainable living is the solution and local sustainable efforts is what will endure the test of time. The mighty globalist autocracy will never be able to serve the people as well as they can serve themselves.

Sic Semper Tyrannis!

[BoringGuy45]

I’d rather overestimate than underestimate. I mean obviously these guys aren’t better or even close to on par with a Tier 1 military unit or something. I’m not even saying they are necessarily better than most of the people on this site. But what I am saying is that the armed Left are actively working at getting better, while a lot of the Right is content to rest on its laurels and just assume that “someday” if bullets start flying, we’ll prevail by default. By that point though, the Left will potentially have had time to get pretty good at this shit.

Essentially, their people are putting in the effort to get better at the various skill sets that go into waging an insurrection. Whereas there doesn’t seem to be a similar level of effort on our side. Some of it is due to circumstances, most of us have jobs and families, mortgages etc..other “here and now” concerns that take precedence over thwarting a hypothetical Marxist insurgency in the US. But a lot of it is simple hubris as well. By the time we wake up, they legitimately may have gotten better than us, because they were honing their craft all along while we were distracted or busy....or just too self assured to bother doing likewise.

I agree that it's better to overestimate than underestimate. Conservatives just have a tendency to be lazy about doing anything that doesn't concern them personally; many plan to wait until trouble crosses their property line so they can pull the Clint Eastwood "Get off my lawn!" and then go back about their business. Overestimating gives a lot of people the excuse to just say that resistance is futile, so the best bet is just to not even bother. The key is to realize the threat for what it is. Plan for more than what it is, but don't lose heart.

[Jellybean]

https://www.integratedskillsgroup.co...-huckleberries

Wow, this one hits on all cylinders. A good read if you are a thinker...hard to stay on the fence after this one....

To short circuit several pages for the TL/DR types;
"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you."

Frankly, everything in that article has been plain as day for at least the last four years now. If anyone reads that article and it's "news" to them, they haven't been paying attention at all.

[m4hk33]

The reason people haven't acted yet is because there's still things left to lose. It is frustrating being in a "do not fire unless fired upon" situation, but it's where we're at right now. There's still people in the middle saying they don't like Antifa, but we're just being paranoid about the danger they pose. If we make the first strike, suddenly we're the greater of two evils. It needs to be obvious that the leftist groups are an imminent existential threat and not just a bunch of stupid teenagers whose parents didn't spank them enough. Right now, these groups have not the training, equipment, or backing to enforce their will in more rural, conservative areas.

Another reason why we can still wait till the "nothing left to lose" stage: The left's questionable willingness to sacrifice. These groups have shown a willingness to fight, and probably to kill, but they have yet to show that they are willing to die for their cause. They think they are entitled to having no resistance against them. They are genuinely surprised when they get arrested for assaulting a police officer. They are angry and incredulous when someone has the nerve to defend themselves against an attack, and they run to the very people they are trying to overthrow and demand justice. They are going to have to accept that killing means risking getting yourself killed, and I don't think they recognize that. The right, on the other hand, realize that when the killing starts, it won't stop, and there's nothing left to lose. Even with odds stacked against us, to quote the video game Prince of Persia: Warrior Within "When a man is faced with his own death, he finds the impossible less of a barrier."

I think the left is willing to fight because they almost live a in a theoretical world where their are no absolutes. No only can a man or women be anything, 2 plus 2 can now equal 5. They completely reject the concept of law and order, not because a particular law is unjust but because their can not process that something can be concrete. While I can acknowledge Trump may be an idiot, he really is not running the country tremendously than any other president in the last few decades. He can make some executive orders but for the most part, he just signs stuff that congress sends him. He is ok. But for the left, they become triggered when they see Trump embracing the concept of borders or something like that. Rather think about the presidents positional rationally, by asking questions, do we need more or less immigration and why, they skip to Trump is trying to implement concentration camps. They are completely disillusioned.

In the the greatest country in the world, where even with minimal effort once can be in the top 1 percent of the worlds standard of living, Everybody is a racist, everybody is a fascist while I growing up in levels of comfort that 99 percent of the globe dream about.

For the right, we still understand the concepts that the country was founded upon and think that despite the countries faults, its the greatest country on earth and we can work to make it better.

The question I have, is at what people are going to decide to start center punching people for a treeline when they start showing up in residential area.

[REDinFL]

People who are accustomed to orderly lives have to understand "order" is over, and has been for some time. They still are afraid of the police, even if the police stand aside when the vandals and destroyers run wild. No, I don't care why they stand aside. Your "officials" will throw you under the bus if their perception is that it will help them politically. You are just collateral damage. Understand that. Witting or dumb, they are helping the revolution.

I have made my decisions.

[Esq.]

People who are accustomed to orderly lives have to understand "order" is over, and has been for some time. They still are afraid of the police, even if the police stand aside when the vandals and destroyers run wild. No, I don't care why they stand aside. Your "officials" will throw you under the bus if their perception is that it will help them politically. You are just collateral damage. Understand that. Witting or dumb, they are helping the revolution.

I have made my decisions.

This is the single largest problem our side has- they have not come to the realization that the "old way" is GONE! There is no more RULE OF LAW.....at least not in the terms they were taught in school. You will still get put in jail if you defend yourself or your property, but there are no consequences for people burning down your home, blinding you with lasers, beating the shit out of you etc......They have this quaint idea that "the powers that be" still care about them, not hardly, you're on your own and SSS is the new RULE OF LAW for average Americans...... "Call the Police".....LOLLLLLLLLLL!!!

[Averageman]

I'm almost 60 now, I've been a news junkie my whole life, so I've seen the Left slow roll some of this since the late sixties.
That the Right "Are accustomed to orderly lives" was a learned "Boomer" behavior, it meant success will come with hard work, (discipline) and that if you color inside the lines of social norms you'll be accepted to a good college, but a nice house and find a nice spouse.

The Left brought us "Feminism" essentially pitting Men and Women against each other and blurring the nature roles of Men and Women. The lies of Feminism might have been the cracking of the damn of societies natural laws.
Feminism was a tool of the Socialist Left. It may sound very normal because catch phrases like "Equal Pay for Equal Work" seemed normal and ethical, but nothing could be less true. Women aren't doing the same work as Men for the most part and they are not equal physically or emotionally capable of doing so.

Then the Civil Rights Movement changed dramatically. Instead of "Equal Rights" like equal employment opportunities, voting rights and equal housing rights, it turned in to "More than Equal Rights".
Go here and read this:
http://https://www.dol.gov/general/t...ion/ethnicdisc
Sounds good, looks good on paper, but suddenly the Federal Government became the arbitrators of numbers and the ability to hand out fines if you didn't meet those numbers.
So your business that you built yourself is no longer yours in some ways. Your employee's to some degree are being picked by the .gov so you can meet their numbers. You can no longer pick the best Man for the job, in order to meet the Law, you now have to invest your money in employee's to meet the .gov numbers.

This insanity has gone so far that the Military is required to meet these numbers and they have "Dumbed Down" the physical requirements for some of the most physically demanding and dangerous jobs.

The sexual Revolution and the demise of the nuclear family is also a major factor.
When you add the increased employment opportunities and "The Pill" the result became decreased size of Families and Mom no longer being home with her Children. So the more "soft" half of the guidance for children is now absent.
This also brought about Women being "Upwardly Mobile" in job's, sexual partners and family situations. This of course brought about an increase in divorce (No shame in that now) unwed Mothers and a decrease in the influence on Men's roles in the Family.
So now most boys are growing up without a Dad in the house and it shows.

I can't say this was some sort of "Communist Plot", but it was certainly glorified by Hollywood and normalized by the Socialist/Progressive movement (sometimes known as the DNC) as it all slow rolled to a Family near you.

[drsal]

https://www.integratedskillsgroup.co...-huckleberries

Wow, this one hits on all cylinders. A good read if you are a thinker...hard to stay on the fence after this one....

Who exactly is 'integrated skills group' ? Just some guy and his opinion on matters like 1000"s of others? The commentary is interesting, but nothing exemplary.

[prepare]

The line between a civil and a uncivilized society is thin. Without law, order, respect for law and order, and enforcement that line becomes less and less visible. That’s what we are seeing. Not to mention people have zero respect for cops and are getting shot for not listening and not complying.