To the LEO on this forum: Quit

[Dr. Bullseye]

Hey, a few big blue cities are not America. Those are shit holes anyway and you should leave anyway. But out in the country, law enforcement is still respected. This is especially true at the county sheriff level. Why not just leave the cities, change your whole life-style for the better and move to the country? County Sheriffs are elected and are usually the most important official in that county. People will respect you here. OK, you are going to take a pay cut but cost of living is lower and the improved quality of life will more than make up for it. Think about it.

[Det-Sog]

I permanently resigned my LEO commission in 2012 when I moved out of state for a new airline pilot gig. Up to TODAY, not a day has gone by where I didn't kind of miss it. NOW... You couldn't pay me enough to take the badge back.

BE CAREFUL out there y'all. You CAN move to another career and do well. If an East Texas trailer park trash guy like me can, y'all can too.

[Bogart]

I have a little kid, too. But so do many cops. When you do your job with common sense and morality and it STILL could potentially land you in prison and make it so you never see your kids again, who wants to risk that?

This. I don’t care how small the vocal minority is, or how big the silent majority is. If they really cared then they’d stop being silent. It doesn’t matter how small that loud minority is when they’re charging you with murder in a justified self-defense shooting. Not. Worth. It.

[BoringGuy45]

This. I don’t care how small the vocal minority is, or how big the silent majority is. If they really cared then they’d stop being silent. It doesn’t matter how small that loud minority is when they’re charging you with murder in a justified self-defense shooting. Not. Worth. It.

It's not that we don't care. It's that the means of communication is totally controlled by the enemy. The power, the money, and the governments in the worst places are controlled by the enemy. We can't speak out right now without being totally destroyed and accomplishing nothing in the process. I've let all the people who I left behind in LE know that I still got their backs (yes, I even support my FTO. He was an asshole but I don't wish death upon him). I stop and talk with cops and let them know that they still have allies.

The time of reckoning will come...

[LMT Shooter]

Hey, a few big blue cities are not America. Those are shit holes anyway and you should leave anyway. But out in the country, law enforcement is still respected. This is especially true at the county sheriff level. Why not just leave the cities, change your whole life-style for the better and move to the country? County Sheriffs are elected and are usually the most important official in that county. People will respect you here. OK, you are going to take a pay cut but cost of living is lower and the improved quality of life will more than make up for it. Think about it.

This is spot on. I work as a CO for a smaller sheriff's office, in a smaller community. Lots of respect for LE from the majority of folks in my area. If cops wanna leave the big cities, you can't blame them, but they should look at smaller departments for employment, especially if you are working on building your pension.

[BoringGuy45]

Hey, a few big blue cities are not America. Those are shit holes anyway and you should leave anyway. But out in the country, law enforcement is still respected. This is especially true at the county sheriff level. Why not just leave the cities, change your whole life-style for the better and move to the country? County Sheriffs are elected and are usually the most important official in that county. People will respect you here. OK, you are going to take a pay cut but cost of living is lower and the improved quality of life will more than make up for it. Think about it.

I wish we had sheriffs in my state. All sheriffs offices were abolished 20 years ago and their duties were transferred to the state judicial marshals. Not that it made a huge difference; the sheriff's offices only did prisoner transport and court security and had no arrest powers. Towns that don't have a PD are covered by the State Police. Our equivalent to sheriff was chief constable, who was the head elected law enforcement officer in a town rather than a county. But their LE duties shrunk greatly in the 20th Century as the State Police grew, and in 1980, they were stripped of all their police power. I work for my town's constable office and all we do is traffic control at town events. It's fine now, because we're not cops, we don't really even dress like cops (just neon traffic control polos) and so we don't have a target on our backs, and our town is pro-LE anyway. My roundabout point is, I don't like that my state has no elected chief LEOs at either the town, county, or state level. I would much rather have deputy sheriffs than state troopers patrolling my town.

[THCDDM4]

Don't give up because of these progressive socialist pieces of scum wanting you to give up. If you as an individual are not in it for the right reasons or feel it is time to go, thats your choice, but do not be manipulated into leaving the profession by these morons, please, stay and do all the good you can within the system.

Most of us out here are supporting you in any way we can, we might not have as loud of a voice and we don't have the main stream media on our side to help get our message out, but we stand together with you and are here to work together to mend this country and continue to move forward as a shining light in this world.

America is far from united right now, but we can be united once again in our future, it won't be easy and it may get very ugly, but we can never give up or it will all be lost.

[fred]

After 23 years there are bad times, true. Sometimes watching the news I even think "we should all just quit." One guy once posted in here that he liked traffic accidents because he could actually help someone, and that really got me.
Also, even when muster is all negative and management pisses me off, one of the guys might come up to me with a problem I can solve, or someone will stop me at the Circle K and say something nice, or I can talk one of the guys out of doing something stupid (sometimes by sharing what happened when I did something stupid).
After eligibility the wife and I talked a lot about punching out. An opportunity came. I just couldn't do it, because I really like it. Even when I hate it, I like it. Even the guys I do not like, I will miss. The calls I do not like, I will miss. But actually helping someone out, whether they love or hate LE, call me selfish but I do love it. I'm too old for the Fire Academy.
The new commies may win but right now they are trying the hardest-we need to convince more people to speak up.

[teufelhund1918]

In 2016, after 10 years of trying to get into LE, I was hired as a correctional officer. I found I really had a knack for it but after 5 months on the job, I got hired as a police officer, which was my ultimate goal. After a brief honeymoon period with my PD, I entered FTO and found that I was a REALLY bad fit for my department. After 4 months, I resigned as I was about to fail field training, and I went back to work at the jail. I was then miserable there as it was a shitty place to work and didn't pay enough for me to pay my bills, even with OT. After a year, I left and headed back to my hometown and took a job outside of LE while I applied for police jobs in the area where I grew up, hoping I'd get a second chance. Most of the departments turned me down because my first PD didn't work out and I finally gave up trying. I'm pursuing clinical social work and in the process of getting a MSW.

My FTO didn't like me, and no matter what I did, it was never good enough. The tension and him constantly telling me how worthless I was as both a cop and a human being killed my confidence. I finally got to a point where I could barely even drive because I was so nitpicked. I was in a depression for about a year afterwards and literally felt like anyone who ever loved me was wrong; I felt there was literally not one positive thing about my existence and I was undeserving of life.

I owe my FTO a 20 year old bottle of single malt. He probably saved my life.

What you went through was not training. It was degradation. You didn't fail him or yourself, he and his supervisors, who surely knew his ways, failed you. From my experience, people like him are they type that can't teach because they don't know their job and are pretty much scared but putting on a tough face. Sounds like he did nothing to prepare you with the proper skills to do the job.... probably because he did't have them himself. The job involves more than instinct. You have to have the knowledge of the job and people skills. Just from what you said, I can tell that he is the type that leads people into bad situations like the Floyd situation. They do nothing during their careers but cause problems. Chavin, along with the other Officer, was a FTO with a trainee. From the news, the trainees started to question what was going on and they were told to STF up. I know some folks who don't get one ounce of respect simply because of their disrespectful pissy attitude while others who consistently treat people firmly, fairly and compassionately within the rules and have a good rapport with people get things done. Couple your experience with what is going on today with these officers in the spotlight and you can see at least part of the problem. I've seen this type of thing ruin good people's lives.

As far as quitting. There have been some threats on FB that corrections is next on the BLM/ANTIFA agenda. As bad as I hate things right now, I refuse to give into these turds and I'll do my best to do the right thing.....

[Robisten8]

I'm thanked multiple times a day by the good citizens and honestly it's the only reason I'm not retiring early. It definitely sucks working for a liberal government that publicly ridicules your profession, but in the grand scheme of things, I know the public is on our side and the public officials that vocalize their displeasure are clueless about the job LEO's do. You're only hearing about the vocal anti-police idiots because the media likes to stir the pot. Media is the biggest issue in this country. Without the media, the CoronaVirus, the anti-police rhetoric, the hate on Trump, etc. wouldn't exist or would at least be a silent existence.

I have a little over 4 years left before I'm set to retire and receive a pretty healthy monthly annuity for the rest of my life from the liberal city government I work for. And there's as much overtime as I can work right now. I just hope I'm retired by time the boogaloo hits, so I can sit back and watch.