To the LEO on this forum: Quit

[Whiskey_Bravo]

The real hit will be at the academy level as people will stop applying. More bad cops will get through as depts will need bodies and lower their standards for new applicants. Good cops will quit early to find other employment.

This is my fear as well.

[TomMcC]

Good policing will simply happen where it is wanted, probably in the more conservative states/rural areas. Police will be wanted and honored there. Big liberal cities will go down the toilet pretty fast if they carry out their plans. The police there will begin to migrate away slowly but surely, just like conservatives migrate to freer states. If the police can't really migrate to better states or jobs then they'll probably be much less likely to put their life on the line when needed. If I had to worry about going to jail everytime I pulled my gun, I don't think I would be inclined to put myself in situations where I had to pull it.

[B Cart]

I really wanted to pursue LE for a long time, and ultimately took a different career path for better money. In light of everything going on these days, i'm glad i did. I was able to get on the local Sheriff Search and Rescue Team for my county 5 years ago, and that allows me to keep my full time job while still being able to serve the community in a positive way. Our team is very active, and for me, it's a solid compromise.

I have many friends in LE, even outside of the people I work with at the Sheriff's Office, and they are great people, so it's sad to see all of the hate and pressure placed on them these days. I've already seen many ditching law enforcement for other career paths, and i'm sure recruiting is going to take a massive hit. At some point people will realize how good we had it.

[joedirt199]

I have been playing the lotto pretty religiously in the hopes of telling all this shit to piss up a rope and plant me and mine in the middle of a big property away from everybody. Better chance if I atleast buy a ticket than if I don't play at all.

[grnamin]

I have eluded to this, and seen it posted as well on other threads. The end game of this 'defund the police' movement is lot more sinister, evil, and controlling than one would suspect. A National police force, ala gestapo, taking orders from an unpleasant, perhaps falsely elected ComDem administration, would be disastrous.

Classic Cloward-Piven strategy. Overwhelm the system to get everyone fed up with all the crime so that they will wholeheartedly welcome a tyrannical regime to re-establish "law and order".

[Alex V]

We’ll figure out a way to fix this.

No we won't because we have no balls. While they burn down cities and tear down monuments, arrest cops who don't tow the party line we sit on here asking for cops not to quit. See the difference? They do, we talk. This is why we will never fix it. It will be "fixed" but not by us, and not to our liking.

Neither do I but I sure as hell don't want them to quit. I value civil society too much and the thin blue line is not a metaphor.

We citizens need to find a way to step up and support LE better.

Maybe it's time we get a little un-civil?

Classic Cloward-Piven strategy. Overwhelm the system to get everyone fed up with all the crime so that they will wholeheartedly welcome a tyrannical regime to re-establish "law and order".

Bingo! That's the problem. On the one hand I don't mind cops not showing up work for to give the cities a taste of their own medicine. Sure innocent people will suffer, but so too will be the hoards that want to abolish the police. The only people who won't be effected by this are the politicians who sow the seeds of this stupidity and in that, lies the problem. Ideally, the cops that should walk off the job are not the ones patrolling the streets, but the ones providing protection for the mayors, governors, DAs, congressmen and senators.

[Nightvisionary]

I don't see LE quitting in any appreciable numbers. It is very difficult to trade the status, pay, and benefits for uncertainty. Years ago sure I worked with a handful of officer's with an MBA's or law degrees here and there but that was pretty rare. The average line officer simply has no easy alternative career path with a criminal justice degree/LE resume considering that tens of millions of Americans have suddenly found themselves out of work. What we are seeing is perhaps the beginning of a much needed "Industry overhaul" to adjust a mindset and training curriculum of the last 50 years. Perhaps military terms like Violence of Action were best left on the battlefield rather than doctrine for LE patrolling American streets. Nobody likes change but I think the most adaptable will excel and may appreciate the changes once the dust settles.

[Averageman]

[yoni]

The country is divided, we have left-right, but more important most people left and right feel a major disconnect with the people in power in DC. As we progress down the drain, we start showing classical signs of a country that is going to go off the rails big time.

But what to do about it?

At this point in time, I see no course of action other than make sure we keep as many Marxist as possible out of office in November.

But after the election, I believe things are really going to explode with violence across the country. We can see that just like real estate one of the key factors to having the least amount of hassle will be location, location, location.

We have seen how an insane DA in Atlanta, has reacted this week. Now put yourself in a situation in Atlanta or similar blue city and you have to use deadly force to protect yourself against a group of BLM, that are stomping you to the ground for the crime of being white.

[WillBrink]

Maybe it's time we get a little un-civil?

Like any dynamic confrontation, it can and will go in directions you don't control as history had demonstrated over and over and over. The North expected the the troubles with the South to be short lived for example, and "the numbers" suggested that would be the case. 600,000 dead later...

War sucks, civil wars make all other wars look tame by comparison.

Once you open the bottle, there's no putting the Jeanie back and what starts out a perfectly nice little conflict develops into a monster with it's own life and will.

Being we can't control what ends up being "a little un-civil" to teach some A holes a lesson they may deserve into something legit ugly, I'll still pass if possible.

If not, then do it with overwhelming force old school, without lube and done.