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    Spent a few years back in the late 90s and early 2000s learning all I could about local policing, doing ride alongs and internships. Decided that even just outside of Camden that I wasn't going to be happy dealing with domestics, traffic violations and the general shenanigans associated with that job in that area. Eventually ended up a federal cop and enjoyed it for the most part; certainly not as "exciting" on most tours as a local would get, but most of the time that was probably a good thing.

    I got out just over a year ago after serving for 13 years and with our retirement and benefits lagging WAY behind most local and most of the better known federal agencies, it was a smart move financially. So up until about 2 or 3 weeks ago, I was really missing it terribly; having some trouble with the day-to-day as a chairborne ranger. But with what's going on now, I think maybe the Big Guy Upstairs threw me a major win getting out when I did. I look at it now as I have the benefit of having worked with some just awesome people, I was in on training most will never get, have seen some rather unusual things in my travels and have LEOSA/HR218 so I can carry until I am physically or mentally unable to anymore. But I really do feel for the guys/gals still on the job, at all levels. THERE IS NO EPIDEMIC/SYSTEMATIC POLICE BRUTALITY PROBLEM, PERIOD. For God's sake, why can't people with the audience stand up and state the simple fact that over 60 million, on the low end, police encounters a year end just fine; even a hundred that would go terribly wrong would not even been a statistical blip on the map. It is maddening to watch the left's long game paying off so big as the takeover of teachers, the education system, the media, hollywood and pretty much everything else now pays them back with this wave of anti-LE sentiment and action with no major players seeming to take up the fight for the "good guys."

    "Support our Police" signs in the yard and standing up to anyone that doesn't respect officers in person, online, at the polls, with donations, etc. is just useless without big support.

    ETA: But to you that are still serving your communities, know that the vast majority of Americans, starting with this one, appreciate and respect the hell out of you and what you stand for. I pray that the good ones stay and that the rest of us show the backbone to stand up when one gets railroaded like the officer in Atlanta. Sacrificing those that are sworn to serve and protect cannot be allowed!!
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    With the new bill here in CO, and the filing of charges in ATL, I'm ready to leave policing after 10 years. Problem is, where do I go and what do I do? Three kids, a mortgage, bills to pay, and a lifestyle that fits the salary I have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag View Post
    With the new bill here in CO, and the filing of charges in ATL, I'm ready to leave policing after 10 years. Problem is, where do I go and what do I do? Three kids, a mortgage, bills to pay, and a lifestyle that fits the salary I have now.
    Federal contracting is always an option. I can PM if you're interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag View Post
    With the new bill here in CO, and the filing of charges in ATL, I'm ready to leave policing after 10 years. Problem is, where do I go and what do I do? Three kids, a mortgage, bills to pay, and a lifestyle that fits the salary I have now.
    I’m here in CO as well (civ) and I was chatting with an undersheriff who said if it passes he’s out of LE. Luckily I’m in El Paso county where LE is run very well so it’ll take some time here for it to all fall apart.

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    What’s the CO bill entail? I must have missed it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    In 2016, after 10 years of trying to get into LE, I was hired as a correctional officer. I found I really had a knack for it but after 5 months on the job, I got hired as a police officer, which was my ultimate goal. After a brief honeymoon period with my PD, I entered FTO and found that I was a REALLY bad fit for my department. After 4 months, I resigned as I was about to fail field training, and I went back to work at the jail. I was then miserable there as it was a shitty place to work and didn't pay enough for me to pay my bills, even with OT. After a year, I left and headed back to my hometown and took a job outside of LE while I applied for police jobs in the area where I grew up, hoping I'd get a second chance. Most of the departments turned me down because my first PD didn't work out and I finally gave up trying. I'm pursuing clinical social work and in the process of getting a MSW.

    My FTO didn't like me, and no matter what I did, it was never good enough. The tension and him constantly telling me how worthless I was as both a cop and a human being killed my confidence. I finally got to a point where I could barely even drive because I was so nitpicked. I was in a depression for about a year afterwards and literally felt like anyone who ever loved me was wrong; I felt there was literally not one positive thing about my existence and I was undeserving of life.

    I owe my FTO a 20 year old bottle of single malt. He probably saved my life.
    This is a moving story, but I don't understand it. So your point was or is ? Maybe because I dont know what a FTO is. Field Training Officer? just a guess. ? How did he save your life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    What’s the CO bill entail? I must have missed it.


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    Qualified immunity is out. Your home, car, any assets are free game in a civil suit, if I’m reading it correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    What’s the CO bill entail? I must have missed it.
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    There's a lot in it, but this seems to be the highlights:
    - Requires body cameras be worn and that recordings be released within 21 days of a misconduct claim
    - Requires body cameras be activated during interaction with the public
    - Defines situations when body cameras may be turned off and sets sanctions for failing use cameras appropriately
    - Creates an annual reporting requirement for a variety of use of force and contact statistics
    - Requires permanent revocation of certification for any peace officer that pleads guilty or nolo contendrere to a crime of unlawful use or threatened use of force
    - Places limits on use of force in response to a protest or demonstration (cannot fire projectiles at head/pelvis/back or indiscriminately into a crowd. Must warn to disperse prior to use of chemical agents)
    - Ends qualified immunity as a defense to civil action and allows for civil action to be brought against individual officers for infringement of rights.
    - Creates use of force standards that limits use of lethal force and bans choke holds.
    - Requires officers to intervene when they witness other officers using unlawful physical force and requires reporting.
    - Mandates that officers who fail to intervene shall be decertified by the POST board
    - Creates a database of peace officer untruthfulness, failure to meet training requirements, decertification, and termination for cause
    - Allows the POST board to decertify officers that fail to meet training requirements
    - Requires that peace officers have a legal basis for making a contact
    - Requires reporting after a contact

    https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/sb20-217
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    This is a moving story, but I don't understand it. So your point was or is ? Maybe because I dont know what a FTO is. Field Training Officer? just a guess. ? How did he save your life?

    PB
    Yes, FTO=Field Training Officer. The fact that he belittled me day in and day out finally broke my confidence and I was unable to do the job. Had he successfully guided me through training, I might still be on the job, in a city that hates cops, with a target on my back. Who knows what may have happened to me this year? I just hope he and my former fellow officers are doing okay. My FTO may be an ass, but I don't wish any harm upon him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    Yes, FTO=Field Training Officer. The fact that he belittled me day in and day out finally broke my confidence and I was unable to do the job. Had he successfully guided me through training, I might still be on the job, in a city that hates cops, with a target on my back. Who knows what may have happened to me this year? I just hope he and my former fellow officers are doing okay. My FTO may be an ass, but I don't wish any harm upon him.
    copy, good luck on whichever endeavor may be yours.
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