To the LEO on this forum: Quit

[thepatriot2705]

It is clear that people want to live in a lawless society. It is clear your leadership will buckle under the social justice mob. The nation doesn’t deserve protection anymore. While I dislike cops as I’ve been lied to, I still respect them. No human should have to deal with murders, rapes, dead children, domestic disputes and be expected to be perfect.

I thank all the LEOs here, but it’s clear that people don’t respect you all and it’s not worth risking your life for a nation of cowards.

Unbelievable they charged that cop in Atlanta with murder.

[Alex V]

I don't understand how anyone at this point in time would want to be an LEO.

[BoringGuy45]

I don't understand how anyone at this point in time would want to be an LEO.

In 2016, after 10 years of trying to get into LE, I was hired as a correctional officer. I found I really had a knack for it but after 5 months on the job, I got hired as a police officer, which was my ultimate goal. After a brief honeymoon period with my PD, I entered FTO and found that I was a REALLY bad fit for my department. After 4 months, I resigned as I was about to fail field training, and I went back to work at the jail. I was then miserable there as it was a shitty place to work and didn't pay enough for me to pay my bills, even with OT. After a year, I left and headed back to my hometown and took a job outside of LE while I applied for police jobs in the area where I grew up, hoping I'd get a second chance. Most of the departments turned me down because my first PD didn't work out and I finally gave up trying. I'm pursuing clinical social work and in the process of getting a MSW.

My FTO didn't like me, and no matter what I did, it was never good enough. The tension and him constantly telling me how worthless I was as both a cop and a human being killed my confidence. I finally got to a point where I could barely even drive because I was so nitpicked. I was in a depression for about a year afterwards and literally felt like anyone who ever loved me was wrong; I felt there was literally not one positive thing about my existence and I was undeserving of life.

I owe my FTO a 20 year old bottle of single malt. He probably saved my life.

[danattyfatty]

In 2016, after 10 years of trying to get into LE, I was hired as a correctional officer. I found I really had a knack for it but after 5 months on the job, I got hired as a police officer, which was my ultimate goal. After a brief honeymoon period with my PD, I entered FTO and found that I was a REALLY bad fit for my department. After 4 months, I resigned as I was about to fail field training, and I went back to work at the jail. I was then miserable there as it was a shitty place to work and didn't pay enough for me to pay my bills, even with OT. After a year, I left and headed back to my hometown and took a job outside of LE while I applied for police jobs in the area where I grew up, hoping I'd get a second chance. Most of the departments turned me down because my first PD didn't work out and I finally gave up trying. I'm pursuing clinical social work and in the process of getting a MSW.

My FTO didn't like me, and no matter what I did, it was never good enough. The tension and him constantly telling me how worthless I was as both a cop and a human being killed my confidence. I finally got to a point where I could barely even drive because I was so nitpicked. I was in a depression for about a year afterwards and literally felt like anyone who ever loved me was wrong; I felt there was literally not one positive thing about my existence and I was undeserving of life.

I owe my FTO a 20 year old bottle of single malt. He probably saved my life.

I’m sorry to hear you had such a sh!tty experience. Your FTO also deserves a HARD kick to the balls.

You don’t denigrate people because they may not be cut out for the job.


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[BoringGuy45]

I’m sorry to hear you had such a sh!tty experience. Your FTO also deserves a HARD kick to the balls.

You don’t denigrate people because they may not be cut out for the job.


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There were so many times when I just wanted to snap and tell him to shut the f**k up if he didn't have anything positive to say...tell him that if I sucked so bad, he needed to tell me how I could do better. Anytime I asked his advice on anything, he'd say, "This job is all instinct. If you have to be taught, you can't be taught." But right at the beginning of FTO, my wife found out she was pregnant, so I figured I needed to just weather the storm, swallow my pride, and not get fired for insubordination. In the long run, I would have saved myself a lot of emotional turmoil if I had stood up to him early.

He was right about one thing: I'm not a cop. I don't have the personality for it. I was a good CO, but not a good fit for a cop. But right now, I don't want anything that involves a badge.

Right now, while I do still carry some of the scars from all that abuse, I have no regrets about that career not working out.

[Nightvisionary]

I don't see LE quitting in any appreciable numbers. It is very difficult to trade the status, pay, and benefits for uncertainty. Years ago sure I worked with a handful of officer's with an MBA's or law degrees here and there but that was pretty rare. The average line officer simply has no easy alternative career path with a criminal justice degree/LE resume considering that tens of millions of Americans have suddenly found themselves out of work. What we are seeing is perhaps the beginning of a much needed "Industry overhaul" to adjust a mindset and training curriculum of the last 50 years. Perhaps military terms like Violence of Action were best left on the battlefield rather than doctrine for LE patrolling American streets. Nobody likes change but I think the most adaptable will excel and may appreciate the changes once the dust settles.

[Averageman]

[Mozart]

In 2016, after 10 years of trying to get into LE, I was hired as a correctional officer. I found I really had a knack for it but after 5 months on the job, I got hired as a police officer, which was my ultimate goal. After a brief honeymoon period with my PD, I entered FTO and found that I was a REALLY bad fit for my department. After 4 months, I resigned as I was about to fail field training, and I went back to work at the jail. I was then miserable there as it was a shitty place to work and didn't pay enough for me to pay my bills, even with OT. After a year, I left and headed back to my hometown and took a job outside of LE while I applied for police jobs in the area where I grew up, hoping I'd get a second chance. Most of the departments turned me down because my first PD didn't work out and I finally gave up trying. I'm pursuing clinical social work and in the process of getting a MSW.

My FTO didn't like me, and no matter what I did, it was never good enough. The tension and him constantly telling me how worthless I was as both a cop and a human being killed my confidence. I finally got to a point where I could barely even drive because I was so nitpicked. I was in a depression for about a year afterwards and literally felt like anyone who ever loved me was wrong; I felt there was literally not one positive thing about my existence and I was undeserving of life.

I owe my FTO a 20 year old bottle of single malt. He probably saved my life.

Damn.

I dodged a bullet too with that career, only I didn’t even make it out of the academy before I had the chief in my face telling me he didn’t want me on his crew. My foul up? I had the audacity to sprain my right MCL and slip three ribs during deftac, and asked to leave to get X-rays, not knowing they were slipped not broken. What a piece of trash I am huh? Well, good riddance to that career path. That particular agency has massive turnover too. Miserable job. Glad I’m not dealing with the mass suicide that half the country seems to want to drag us through these days.

[teufelhund1918]

In 2016, after 10 years of trying to get into LE, I was hired as a correctional officer. I found I really had a knack for it but after 5 months on the job, I got hired as a police officer, which was my ultimate goal. After a brief honeymoon period with my PD, I entered FTO and found that I was a REALLY bad fit for my department. After 4 months, I resigned as I was about to fail field training, and I went back to work at the jail. I was then miserable there as it was a shitty place to work and didn't pay enough for me to pay my bills, even with OT. After a year, I left and headed back to my hometown and took a job outside of LE while I applied for police jobs in the area where I grew up, hoping I'd get a second chance. Most of the departments turned me down because my first PD didn't work out and I finally gave up trying. I'm pursuing clinical social work and in the process of getting a MSW.

My FTO didn't like me, and no matter what I did, it was never good enough. The tension and him constantly telling me how worthless I was as both a cop and a human being killed my confidence. I finally got to a point where I could barely even drive because I was so nitpicked. I was in a depression for about a year afterwards and literally felt like anyone who ever loved me was wrong; I felt there was literally not one positive thing about my existence and I was undeserving of life.

I owe my FTO a 20 year old bottle of single malt. He probably saved my life.

What you went through was not training. It was degradation. You didn't fail him or yourself, he and his supervisors, who surely knew his ways, failed you. From my experience, people like him are they type that can't teach because they don't know their job and are pretty much scared but putting on a tough face. Sounds like he did nothing to prepare you with the proper skills to do the job.... probably because he did't have them himself. The job involves more than instinct. You have to have the knowledge of the job and people skills. Just from what you said, I can tell that he is the type that leads people into bad situations like the Floyd situation. They do nothing during their careers but cause problems. Chavin, along with the other Officer, was a FTO with a trainee. From the news, the trainees started to question what was going on and they were told to STF up. I know some folks who don't get one ounce of respect simply because of their disrespectful pissy attitude while others who consistently treat people firmly, fairly and compassionately within the rules and have a good rapport with people get things done. Couple your experience with what is going on today with these officers in the spotlight and you can see at least part of the problem. I've seen this type of thing ruin good people's lives.

As far as quitting. There have been some threats on FB that corrections is next on the BLM/ANTIFA agenda. As bad as I hate things right now, I refuse to give into these turds and I'll do my best to do the right thing.....

[Pappabear]

In 2016, after 10 years of trying to get into LE, I was hired as a correctional officer. I found I really had a knack for it but after 5 months on the job, I got hired as a police officer, which was my ultimate goal. After a brief honeymoon period with my PD, I entered FTO and found that I was a REALLY bad fit for my department. After 4 months, I resigned as I was about to fail field training, and I went back to work at the jail. I was then miserable there as it was a shitty place to work and didn't pay enough for me to pay my bills, even with OT. After a year, I left and headed back to my hometown and took a job outside of LE while I applied for police jobs in the area where I grew up, hoping I'd get a second chance. Most of the departments turned me down because my first PD didn't work out and I finally gave up trying. I'm pursuing clinical social work and in the process of getting a MSW.

My FTO didn't like me, and no matter what I did, it was never good enough. The tension and him constantly telling me how worthless I was as both a cop and a human being killed my confidence. I finally got to a point where I could barely even drive because I was so nitpicked. I was in a depression for about a year afterwards and literally felt like anyone who ever loved me was wrong; I felt there was literally not one positive thing about my existence and I was undeserving of life.

I owe my FTO a 20 year old bottle of single malt. He probably saved my life.

This is a moving story, but I don't understand it. So your point was or is ? Maybe because I dont know what a FTO is. Field Training Officer? just a guess. ? How did he save your life?

PB