Antifa-viewpoint AAR of the Minneapolis disaster: "siege of the third precinct"

[Dr. Bullseye]

This is the Domestic Enemy the founders talked about. I have never had the slightest desire to fight with North Koreans, or Viet Cong or North Vietnamese, or Iranians or Iraqis. But I have always recognized these people as my true enemies and I have always wanted to do battle with them to the death. No truce, no treaty, no deal, no live and let live---victory or death. These people want to replace my culture, country, heroes with their culture, country, heroes. They want to enslave my children and grandchildren simply because they are white. In fact, they want to enslave all white people in a kind of economic black communism. I have nothing better to do with the rest of my life than stop these people. In fact, I don't want to even hear about foreign wars or foreign warriors until this threat is eradicated, utterly, once and for all.

Why is this Civil War taking so long?

[glocktogo]

Regardless of how organized/unorganized or unitized they were, the results speak for themselves. What they're doing is more critical intel to the front line guys than who they are or why they're doing it.

[Hank6046]

Regardless of how organized/unorganized or unitized they were, the results speak for themselves. What they're doing is more critical intel to the front line guys than who they are or why they're doing it.

Well said.

[Diamondback]

This part's where they confess to a Federal crime, lasering an aircraft...
"In the grammar of the Hong Kong movement, those who operate laser pointers are referred to as “light mages.” As was the case in Hong Kong, Chile, and elsewhere in 2019, some people came prepared with laser pointers to attack the optical capacity of the police. ... The upside of laser pointers is immense: they momentarily compromise the eyesight of the police on the ground and they can disable police surveillance drones by interfering with their infrared sensors and obstacle-detection cameras. ... If a crowd is particularly dense and visually difficult to discern, lasers can be used to chase away police helicopters. This was successfully demonstrated on Day Three following the retreat of the police from the Third Precinct, as well as on Day Four in the vicinity of the Fifth Precinct battle."

[Belmont31R]

Does anyone know why these types of crowd dispersal devices aren't used? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon

Don't discount how organized these people are. They study and communicate with other far leftist groups all around the world, and have sent people to leftist peshmerga groups in Syria to get trained. As to how well they coordinate on the ground is a debatable discussion but its certainly not a lack of effort. Theres also a reason why the media keeps talking about 'peaceful protestors' while showing images of buildings on fire and reporters getting attacked. They do not want the public to know who these people are and just how subversive the far left is to the country. The use of literal and figurative smoke screens are a huge tactic they employ until they get to a point where the masks and hiding in the shadows is no longer needed.

[SteyrAUG]

In case anyone still thought they could "educate" or "conserve" their way out of this...

They're done talking, and they don't care about the legal consequences because they no longer view it as "their" system.
We're still hamstrung over what to do for ourselves, let alone how to do it or who to do it with, because we're afraid of running afoul of the very system we've created and feel some strange need to uphold, despite it having backstabbed us for decades now.

"... It is their right, it is their duty, to throw off government and to provide new guards for their future security..."

Sounds a lot like "become ungovernable" doesn't it?
Maybe we should consider why the left has actionably grasped such a dearly spoken of concept of ours more thoroughly than we have.

There is also the fact that most of us have jobs, responsibilities, families and things to lose while most of the autonomous zone has nothing at risks and loses nothing each time they get arrested.

For everyone here, an arrest, especially one involving a firearm would be life changing. So you are going to have to forgive us if we aren't ready to seize private and public property by force.

[SteyrAUG]

This part's where they confess to a Federal crime, lasering an aircraft...
"In the grammar of the Hong Kong movement, those who operate laser pointers are referred to as “light mages.” As was the case in Hong Kong, Chile, and elsewhere in 2019, some people came prepared with laser pointers to attack the optical capacity of the police. ... The upside of laser pointers is immense: they momentarily compromise the eyesight of the police on the ground and they can disable police surveillance drones by interfering with their infrared sensors and obstacle-detection cameras. ... If a crowd is particularly dense and visually difficult to discern, lasers can be used to chase away police helicopters. This was successfully demonstrated on Day Three following the retreat of the police from the Third Precinct, as well as on Day Four in the vicinity of the Fifth Precinct battle."

You need to strongly consider that the police department in question was under orders to cooperate and stand down. I wouldn't use Seattle as a model for tactics.

[Co-gnARR]

Does anyone know why these types of crowd dispersal devices aren't used? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon

Don't discount how organized these people are. They study and communicate with other far leftist groups all around the world, and have sent people to leftist peshmerga groups in Syria to get trained. As to how well they coordinate on the ground is a debatable discussion but its certainly not a lack of effort. Theres also a reason why the media keeps talking about 'peaceful protestors' while showing images of buildings on fire and reporters getting attacked. They do not want the public to know who these people are and just how subversive the far left is to the country. The use of literal and figurative smoke screens are a huge tactic they employ until they get to a point where the masks and hiding in the shadows is no longer needed.

I was thinking the same thing. One prototype variant I saw had the ability to induce peristalsis via directed sound waves. In other words, the device could be focused and the target would uncontrollably crap themselves.
Another device oscillated at frequencies that would cause intense burning sensations on skin, with out actually causing any real harm.

[Jellybean]

There is also the fact that most of us have jobs, responsibilities, families and things to lose while most of the autonomous zone has nothing at risks and loses nothing each time they get arrested.

For everyone here, an arrest, especially one involving a firearm would be life changing. So you are going to have to forgive us if we aren't ready to seize private and public property by force.

Yes, that first sentence was exactly my point. That's why they are successful; I mean it's literally stated outright in the article, and something that has been rather clear to see for some time, even without said article.
It's a simple statement of fact. A bit blunt, sure, but just because you don't like it doesn't make it less true.

[Diamondback]

You need to strongly consider that the police department in question was under orders to cooperate and stand down. I wouldn't use Seattle as a model for tactics.

I'm not. What I'm saying is if they declare perpetration of a Federal crime, take them at their word and prosecute accordingly.