single stage trigger suggestions

[Steved13]

I have a Timney competition 3lb on my 16" 5.56/223, and I am probably going to put the same only 4lb on my 7.5" 300blk pistol. The pistol wil be my home defense gun along with a p226 sig...but realistically (and I pray) it will only be used on the range.

Any reason I should go a different route?

[GH41]

I have a 4# Wilson TTU that I really like. I doesn't depend on setscrews to hold it in like the Timney. To tell you the truth I think a hot rod trigger in home defense gun is a liability.

[Clint]

3-4# seems mighty light for an HD setup.

Perhaps one of the improved mill-spec options or a 2 stage with a very short take up like the Larue MBT would be better choices.

[R0CKETMAN]

Google Timney trigger fail

Geissele / ALG, maybe Larue on “go to” guns

[Steved13]

thanks for the replies. I really don't want a 2 stage, or from reviews and opinions geisselle would probably be the answer. Prepping on the range, and prepping in an intense scenario seem like a bad idea to me...bit I am new to ARs so probably wrong on that?

I was liking the drop in idea also.

Not sure why a 4lb would be too light? If finger is out of the trigger guard?

You guys have me rethinking.

I really appreciate the advice, and patience with a new guy.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I have a 4lb Wilson TTU and 4lb Timney 668s. I would recommend the Wilson.

Not sure why a 4lb would be too light? If finger is out of the trigger guard?

Chattanooga has a moderate climate, but I lived up north and wore gloves in the winter a heavier trigger would be best. If you decide to go with a heavier 5-6lb single stage, take a look at LaRue.

[GH41]

thanks for the replies. I really don't want a 2 stage, or from reviews and opinions geisselle would probably be the answer. Prepping on the range, and prepping in an intense scenario seem like a bad idea to me...bit I am new to ARs so probably wrong on that?

I was liking the drop in idea also.

Not sure why a 4lb would be too light? If finger is out of the trigger guard?

You guys have me rethinking.

I really appreciate the advice, and patience with a new guy.

If you are finessing the trigger in your "intense scenario" you are increasing your odds of being killed. You can jerk a 9 pound 2 stage trigger just as fast as a 4 pound single stage.

[Steved13]

If you are finessing the trigger in your "intense scenario" you are increasing your odds of being killed. You can jerk a 9 pound 2 stage trigger just as fast as a 4 pound single stage.

yup makes sense. You kind of made my point...probably would be "finessing" on the range (from the little I know I think thats what 2 sages are about, prep it fine tune the aim and shoot) and then doing something totally diffeent in an intnse scenario. Could never finesse on the range but then I don't understand why get a 2 stage at all?

I hope I don't sound argumentative, I am questioning to learn not argue, written words without "tone" can be misinterpreted

[grizzman]

The two stage trigger design allows for greatly increased sear engagement when the trigger is at rest, compared to a single stage trigger (with equal pressure required to release the hammer).

Taking up the first stage, giving the user a clean break with almost imperceptible trigger movement, has the same end effect as using an excellent single stage. There's simply no initial safety margin with the single stage. Once the trigger moves, the hammer falls.

Taking up the first stage, and expecting to be able to stop at the wall without releasing the hammer, followed by fine tuning the sight picture before taking the shot is okay when shooting for groups from the bench or prone. It is not an effective way to run the gun offhand in most other situations. Pressing through the two stages in one fluid movement is no slower than using a single stage.

....and I fully agree with Dennis. If you can't effectively run a decent mil-spec trigger, then the problem is with you, not the trigger. I've got a few PNTs and one ACT, but in offhand shooting, I see absolutely no difference in the end result.

I have one Timney 4 pound single stage unit. It's much easier installing a PNT or MBT than the Timney, so I see no benefit it it being a cassette...and it's no more crisp than the SSA or MBTs.

[Steved13]

If you don't have the trigger time yet to fully understand the differences between various trigger types in different situations then I would get a quality standard trigger, coated or not, to start in a SD gun. You can always change it out later as you learn more!

Dennis.

The two stage trigger design allows for greatly increased sear engagement when the trigger is at rest, compared to a single stage trigger (with equal pressure required to release the hammer).

Taking up the first stage, giving the user a clean break with almost imperceptible trigger movement, has the same end effect as using an excellent single stage. There's simply no initial safety margin with the single stage. Once the trigger moves, the hammer falls.

Taking up the first stage, and expecting to be able to stop at the wall without releasing the hammer, followed by fine tuning the sight picture before taking the shot is okay when shooting for groups from the bench or prone. It is not an effective way to run the gun offhand in most other situations. Pressing through the two stages in one fluid movement is no slower than using a single stage.

....and I fully agree with Dennis. If you can't effectively run a decent mil-spec trigger, then the problem is with you, not the trigger. I've got a few PNTs and one ACT, but in offhand shooting, I see absolutely no difference in the end result.

Thanks for the feedback, and I apologize if I wasn't clear. I understand the differences between the milspec, 1 stage and 2 stage, and if you check my post above I said something very similar as to staging at the range and not staging in an SD situation. Y thought was/is I would be using different methods at the range than in an SD situation, and usually that isn't desirable...but I think I maybe overthinking that, or something that I see as an issue that others don't.

I can squeeze a double action handgun while staying on target, and the milspec is not an issue in that regard, ut thinking of something a little more fun when at the range.

Since they are not very expencsve I think I may pick up an enhanced "stock trigger" even if it's just to try it for a bit, and then go from there.