Who will take the lead?

[SteyrAUG]

I'm not suggesting current, active SF swoop in and lead a rebellion or counter insurgency. I'm talking about someone rallying those of us that don't want every statue torn down, that don't want to be forced to use a different pronoun when some poor soul can't figure out if they're male or female, people that don't want to continue having our tax dollars used to attack political enemies of the left, who don't want to be fired for having an opinion that isn't supported by the mainstream media. How long do you just sit and let it happen without doing anything? Again, because it's relevant, like Trump took the reins on the ideology of at least half the country, when no one else was willing to put themselves through the wringer that he had to know was coming, but did it anyway. What if the next great SCOTUS judge just says no thanks because of the way the left was allowed to drop the hoax hammer on Kavanaugh; the next great president takes a pass as he doesn't want the three letter agencies turned on him and everyone he knows? I'm looking for that person or group that will show that it's not okay to suggest that members of an administrative get threatened when they're in public, that will stand up and say it's not okay to extort the country with a lie about systemic police brutality, that it's not okay to riot, loot, attack, burn and intimidate anyone who's politics are different from your own. Lots of people in my agency won't even voice an opinion as they don't want to deal with the extreme reactions of both other employees and the agency itself. That's not the way this is supposed to work and not something we can let continue.

As some enlightened person noted in another topic of a similar nature, we still haven't reached that "awkward stage where it's too late to work within the system and too early to start shooting the bastards."

But by all means if you believe it's time to form an A team in your zip code, that is your business.

[SteyrAUG]

We've done nothing while they've taken over our teachers, the education system, our colleges and universities, the media, Hollywood. So we just shrug and say, "well, we can't have a civil war so let's do nothing and watch it burn?" Of course civil war is not the answer, nowhere near that, and no one who has fought wants to ever see that, but to say we can't do that so let's do nothing is just as dumb. So, no disrespect, but don't restate the obvious, that we don't want a civil war, and just stop. Again, that's where you need people to speak up, step to the front, drag the rest of us along to show there's more to the country than what the media shovels out every waking minute. I don't have the answer and any fo knows the answer isn't all out civil war. But as the Chinese just showed, you can change an awful lot without firing a shot. So how do we change an awful lot, without shooting everyone? Who will lead that "movement?"

Maybe we can have an open mic night at the comedy club?

[Honu]

Sadly yes they have

My kids were/are homeschooled my daughter in a good private Christian college

I refuse to go to movies can wait to see for free online if I want
Refuse to shop at certain places etc.... but few do this they talk but no action
Folks should boycott all sports cancel all cable quit supporting stores that bend the knee etc... but they don’t and wont a few do they are mocked instead ?

So we (wife and I) have done what we can as many of our friends have sometimes you can only do so much

If everyone homeschooled ? Instead I hear excuses
Everyone boycotted all movies sports instead excuses

We are still way to comfy IMHO

I used to live in Honduras and LaCeiba or San Pedro Sula or Tegucigalpa will make you realize what tough life violence really is when you see the insanity of bario 18 or ms13 first hand watch folks get butchered with machetes or just walked up to and POP and you step around bodies and pools of blood and still that city keeps going and still some won’t can’t fight back


Again does your store have food do you have water are your loved ones being kidnapped raped murdered

Last week I went in to Costco no shortage of any food no fear for my life gas is cheap went to gun shop bought a pistol I wanted got some new shoes made a nice dinner played some video games etc... our country is not Honduras yet hope it never is been there done that
upside I know what I am capable of and tested real world

yeah it’s strange times so start get a group and homeschool cancel all cable and sports and avoid stores that alone would shake things up
I do what I can
But not ready to start killing folks life is still really good

People need to push back first in other ways
Every single American conservative gun owner canceled cable canceled amazon prime quit going to the movies quit all sports watching quit shopping at Walmart and target and pulled their kids and homeschooled the shockwave would be insane and those companies would get hurt really bad and policies would shift
But they won’t instead excuses

We've done nothing while they've taken over our teachers, the education system, our colleges and universities, the media, Hollywood. So we just shrug and say, "well, we can't have a civil war so let's do nothing and watch it burn?" Of course civil war is not the answer, nowhere near that, and no one who has fought wants to ever see that, but to say we can't do that so let's do nothing is just as dumb. So, no disrespect, but don't restate the obvious, that we don't want a civil war, and just stop. Again, that's where you need people to speak up, step to the front, drag the rest of us along to show there's more to the country than what the media shovels out every waking minute. I don't have the answer and any fo knows the answer isn't all out civil war. But as the Chinese just showed, you can change an awful lot without firing a shot. So how do we change an awful lot, without shooting everyone? Who will lead that "movement?"

[Evel Baldgui]

The post above mentioned 'comfy'. THAT is the reason that the 'right' or 'conservatives' or 'we' don't do a damn thing about antifa, blm, and assorted democratic socialist scum in congress. We are all comfortable......until we are not. If 60 million of 'us' cancelled amazon, Netflix,boycotted Walmart etc, well, they still have 100 million who would not. Home schooling isn't happening, most households have two working parents, which makes it problematic. Mention was made by the OP re using special op/green berets in COIN. What makes you think 'they' aren't working with antifa, blm and assorted groups to undermine the nation. There is a 5th generation war transpiring in this country, with very sinister forces at play that the average or even above average citizen is clueless about. For now, grocery stores are full, gas is inexpensive, everyone has cell phones and FB and IG, Internet forums, etc. People go about their mundane boring predicable stress free lives, without worry other than an occasional tsk, tsk look at that Mabel on tv ! Riots in downtown? amazon will deliver my nikes, no worry. Comfort is king. Others here have spent time living outside the US, in my case,Puerto Vallarta, Cd. Juarez, DF Mexico, the Caribbean, and a short time in Caracas many years ago. Venezuela's decline into anarchy and misery for the masses started the same way as things are occurring in the US now. People were comfortable, until they weren't, then it was too late. How to avoid becoming Venezuela is the question. Being that the vast majority of U.S.inhabitants are morons, exemplified by voting in such miscreants as AOC and the likes of Schumer,Pelosi, Nagler, Bloomberg, Sanders, Biden, time and time again, I see little hope for the future. Prepare accordingly.

[prepare]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...o708ZUU8NhFZVU

ELIZABETH ROGLIANI: Why do I even worry about some silly little statues coming down or some silly little street names changing? Why do I care?

It is because the last time I didn't care about this, I was a teenager. I have already lived through this thing when I was living in Venezuela. Statues came down -- Chavez didn't want that history displayed. And then he changed the street names. Then came the [school curricula]. Then some movies couldn't be shown, then certain TV channels, and so on and so forth.

You guys think this can't happen to you, I've heard it so many times. But always be on guard. Never believe something can't happen to you. You've got to defend your country and your society or it will be destroyed.

We didn't believe it could happen to us. Most Venezuelans --Cubans warned us-- and we were like, "This is Venezuela, we know about freedom. That's not going to happen here." Yet it happened. And there are literally a lot of people wanting to destroy the U.S.

[titsonritz]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...o708ZUU8NhFZVU

ELIZABETH ROGLIANI: Why do I even worry about some silly little statues coming down or some silly little street names changing? Why do I care?

It is because the last time I didn't care about this, I was a teenager. I have already lived through this thing when I was living in Venezuela. Statues came down -- Chavez didn't want that history displayed. And then he changed the street names. Then came the [school curricula]. Then some movies couldn't be shown, then certain TV channels, and so on and so forth.

You guys think this can't happen to you, I've heard it so many times. But always be on guard. Never believe something can't happen to you. You've got to defend your country and your society or it will be destroyed.

We didn't believe it could happen to us. Most Venezuelans --Cubans warned us-- and we were like, "This is Venezuela, we know about freedom. That's not going to happen here." Yet it happened. And there are literally a lot of people wanting to destroy the U.S.

She was interviewed on the Angle starting and 29:00 minutes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAjqhscHdDM

BTW, she is smokin' hot.

[rocsteady]

Maybe we can have an open mic night at the comedy club?

Come on, I stay on this site because I want to hear what you guys have to say. If you don't think we have to worry, you can leave it at that. I'm not trying to insult anyone, I'm not naive enough to think that running into the street guns blazing is the answer and I'd actually like open mic night, if it was a person like those here that have been down this road. Toppling statues, changing definitions, cramming down on rights, limiting the citizens 2A, penalizing for simply disagreeing with the left, not enforcing laws, borders, etc using three letter agencies against political opponents and controlling the media are warning signs Steyr, I just don't want to bury my head in the sand only to wake up in 3 years,five years, ten years and find it's too late right?
Clearly, I don't have the definitive answer but this sure looks like stuff I've seen before and it never ended well.

[rocsteady]

I don't know if I'm just not being clear, but this month the entire FBI was offered training that gave us an overview of crossfire hurricane and the providied theme was that it was a bunch of mistakes. I can't sign out a roll of tape without all kinds of policies and procedures in place. You have to be a complete idiot to think this is a series of mistakes but yet that's where we are? Is that a sign that things are failing at the core?what I would have expected is for the new leadership to come in and state those people lost their moral compass and allowed their politics to guide them through their job which was unacceptable and that they were penalized to the fullest extent of the law. But that's not what happened.

[prepare]

I don't know if I'm just not being clear, but this month the entire FBI was offered training that gave us an overview of crossfire hurricane and the providied theme was that it was a bunch of mistakes. I can't sign out a roll of tape without all kinds of policies and procedures in place. You have to be a complete idiot to think this is a series of mistakes but yet that's where we are? Is that a sign that things are failing at the core?what I would have expected is for the new leadership to come in and state those people lost their moral compass and allowed their politics to guide them through their job which was unacceptable and that they were penalized to the fullest extent of the law. But that's not what happened.

The FBI has been infiltrated and is not on our (Americas) side. Just look at the last 3 directors, McCabe, Comey, Muller, and the current one cant't be trusted either.

Also check out Matt Walsh on the Daily Wire. His last podcast details at least a half dozen black on white attacks with zero charges filed.
https://youtu.be/od_cf0dOTZE

[Alex V]

This whole "it doesn't effect me directly" thing reminds me of a poem by some priest in Germany... some Niemöller guy. A nevermind, I can get a case of beer and Hulu has every season of the X-files....

This is why we will lose, because it's always "not time yet"