What do we know about her? Is she a legit candidate? I’ve noticed she’s gaining a lot of traction on the facing book. Or is she just going to turn into another Ross Perot and potentially derail A Trump re election ala Bush Sr.
What do we know about her? Is she a legit candidate? I’ve noticed she’s gaining a lot of traction on the facing book. Or is she just going to turn into another Ross Perot and potentially derail A Trump re election ala Bush Sr.
Had to look her up, never heard of her. There is one thing for sure...she'll lose. Will she hurt Trump? I doubt it.
I looked at her platform. It's just not viable; we're never, ever going to be, in her words a "giant Switzerland". We're also not going to fix poverty by giving huge corporations even more freedom to monopolize the market than they already do.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who do not.-Ben Franklin
there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it’s worth fighting for.-Samwise Gamgee
Current Libertarian candidate, so no....not a chance.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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I personally agree with a lot of the libertarian platform, but I'll vote Red, even though I see issues down the line.
Dr. Carter G. Woodson, “History shows that it does not matter who is in power or what revolutionary forces take over the government, those who have not learned to do for themselves and have to depend solely on others never obtain any more rights or privileges in the end than they had in the beginning.”
I'm voting red, I saw things that I disagree with on her platform and will not budge.
I’ll vote republican and then go take a shower. I can’t stand Trump, and 95% of the do-nothing coward lying rinos.
But look at everything that’s going on . . . . . Not sitting this one out. I’ll vote for that orange narcissist simply because the crazies and commies hate him
Here are her stated positions. Agree with some, disagree with some. Won't matter.
Social Security
Social Security "would be drastically changed..the most critical -- and controversial -- component of [Jorgensen's] plan is that any American would be able to opt out of Social Security. Anyone who took this route would be allowed to invest 6.2% of their payroll taxes in individual retirement accounts but would receive no Social Security benefits at retirement."[15] However, Jorgensen is committed to making the system financially stable for current beneficiaries and those who do not opt out. [16]
Criminal justice reform
Jorgensen opposes federal civil asset forfeiture. She is also critical of the United States' high incarceration rate.[17]
War on Drugs
Jorgensen opposes the War on Drugs, calling it "racist"[18] and a "failed"[17] policy. She supports abolishing drug laws.[18]
Police demilitarization
She promotes the demilitarization of police, saying that the police's duty "is to go after specific perpetrators of violent crimes, not to act as a force against the people." [19]
Environment
Jorgensen favors nuclear power plants to reduce CO2 emissions.[17][20]
Foreign policy
Jorgensen opposes embargoes, economic sanctions, and foreign aid. She favors the withdrawal of American troops from foreign wars.[21][20] She favors non-interventionism, free and open trade with other nations.[17]
Healthcare
Jorgensen supports a free-market healthcare system over the current system or single-payer.[22][23]
Immigration
In a Libertarian presidential primary debate, Jorgensen said she would immediately stop construction on President Donald Trump's border wall and eliminate quotas limiting who can immigrate to the U.S. During another primary debate, Jorgensen said she would "open up the borders," and she blamed anti-immigration sentiment on disproportionate media coverage of crimes by immigrants. She argued that immigration helps the economy and that the blending of cultures was beneficial.[24][25][26]
COVID-19
She has said the government's response to COVID-19 is "the biggest assault on our liberties in our lifetime," because of both restrictions on individual behavior such as stay-at-home orders as well as corporate bailouts, which she sees as antithetical to free-market principles and biased towards the well-connected.[22][24][27]
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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I don't agree with all of her positions, but she has my vote. Will she win? Almost certainly not, but I'd rather vote for a candidate I at least somewhat agree with and could respect than one that "might win."
--British veteran of the Ukraine War, discussing the FN SCAR H.It's f*****g great, putting holes in people, all the time, and it just puts 'em down mate, they drop like sacks of s**t when they go down with this.
I rarely comment on electoral politics since it’s such a circus, but I think Libertarian candidates perform an important function in our current duopoly.
Most everyone I know has, more or less, libertarian ideals. Y’know, “freedom is good” and stuff like that.
I think we are all aware that our country was founded on essentially libertarian ideals, and I think we are all aware that both modern major parties have, in practice, drifted away from those ideals on a number of issues (though admittedly “constitutional conservatives” tend to strike closer to the mark than the Marxist ideologies of the modern left).
Anyway, I think the L candidate applies pressure to the R’s and D’s to embrace (remember?) some libertarian ideals, or risk losing the X% of votes from normal Americans of all stripes who value freedom.
Libertarians don’t have to win to exert a net positive effect on policy. They just have to make the big players concerned enough about losing to adopt (or at least give lip service to) the general ideals that make America exceptional.
Jo Jorgensen is a good offering from the L party, IMO. She’s not a joke candidate, or a single issue candidate, or a moron, or a RINO.
One of these cycles the R/D candidates will be so bad (are we already there?) that the L’s will pull double digits. Hell, even a high single-digit margin is enough to make-or-break an election.
Are the R’s going to write off that critical percentage?
Are they going to dismiss the ideals that are quintessentially American and laugh off voters that put personal liberty at the forefront?
“Pffft. Loser Libertarians. All they care about is freedom.”
Yeah...that’s me I guess. I’m voting for the nice lady that wants to abolish the ATF.
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