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Thread: Building your stockpiles... ratios of Serious to Training to "Specialty" rounds?

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    What I keep on hand:

    556
    1) A few hundred Fusion MSR
    2) About a hundred Vor-tx 70gr 556
    3) A few hundo Frontier 68gr 556
    4) A few thousand 62gr reloads (Not 855)
    5) A few thousand of anything brass cased that is a good deal at the moment, especially if it uses good brass. XM193, XM855, Aguila, Precision One seconds, etc.

    9mm
    6) a few hundred Ranger T 147gr
    7) a few thou 147gr flat point
    8) literally anything that uses a brass case and standard-ish pressure. 115gr-147gr Reloads, Aguila (I actually like the 147 gr), XM, etc.

    Other calibers
    9) anywhere from 20-2000 for each caliber, depending on how much of it I actually shoot. So like a box of .45 and 7-08, and a couple cases of 5.45 and 7.62x39, with others like Grendel and .40 falling in between. The bird gun has several types of shot on hand.

    Why and what do I use it for:

    The top 4 loads all have similar velocity and POI is close enough at their intended use/distance. Some of the amounts are simply because I tend to buy in bulk.

    1)Fusion MSR is for HD. The reason I buy a good bit at a time is for testing in my weapons for function and confirming close-enough zero at 200-300 (in case I use it for something other than HD). In my experience, it will run any reasonable gun, so you can get away with buying three boxes, and using one to test function and load a mag with the others. Use the extra 10 to rotate out chambered rounds.

    2) 70 TSX solid copper for hunting. Obviously I don’t NEED 100, but see #1. POI is the same as #3, out to 200. I’ve not tested it further.

    3) 68 OTM. This is the load I use at medium range matches, and what the guns are actually zero’d with, at 50 or 200 or 300, depending on the gun, optic, and opportunity. Loads 1,2, and 4 follow its zero pretty well.

    4) 62 gr ball reloads. This is what I usually use for training. It hits close enough out to at least 300. Cycles the gun. Recoil’s about right. Loading a 62gr bullet to similar velocities as factories are getting from 5.56 with 68-70gr bullets means it is easy to work up a safe load that is a rough ballistic match. Its in the neighborhood of hot .223 or light 5.56. We group buy bulk powder, work up a load in a few guns, and start cranking. We use non-magnetic projectiles, because we shoot at a lot of steel, and prefer Hornady 62gr FMJ.

    5) Rando ammo. This helps keep the brass supply fresh, while also catering to my laziness in a reasonably economic fashion.

    6) RA9T for defense.

    7) 147 gr for matches. I like the way the flat point punches paper cleanly, and the recoil of minimum power factor 147’s. These also suppress well through the PCC’s and pistols.

    8) 9mm blasting ammo and brass supply.

    9) to ensure I can actually shoot the .35 Remington levergun in the back of my safe when the whim next strikes me.

    I also carry and shoot whatever is issued to me, whenever applicable, and don’t think about it too hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    I'd never be sitting around with less than 5k in rifle ammo with an ability to load at least another 5-10 thousand for regular shooting.

    I remember a previous panic where the only guys shooting at a busy weekend shooting spot were Pappabear and I. Why? Because we stacked it deep and didn't have to ration a small inventory.
    ^^ this guy gets it.

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    Meh. Like all the other panics. I buy what I can when I can regardless of politics. My realistic goal is to retire comfortable without debt. Currently, even with the pandemic, I'm not where I want to be but I'm also not hurting and have very little debt and plan to keep it that way.

    I'm not here to outfit a whole platoon or a neighborhood. And I only have two arms to carry all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Although you make a good, real world point. I'd never be sitting around with less than 5k in rifle ammo with an ability to load at least another 5-10 thousand for regular shooting.

    I remember a previous panic where the only guys shooting at a busy weekend shooting spot were Pappabear and I. Why? Because we stacked it deep and didn't have to ration a small inventory.
    Well said markm ! I agree 110% cuz myself and my shooting buddies were pretty much like you & Pappabear,we never stopped or slowed down back then,& if anything I know I'm in better shape now than I was then ! Before this crap hit if I saw a deal on anything reloading wize I jumped on it ! I'm good with factory 556 & 308,,good for years actually,LOL I NEVER shoot it, I reload everything I shoot, but with that said there is plenty of quality/every rd looked at/inspected and stashed for future generations, LOL ! Its a different time now but dam I remember $14 per 1K for Wolf Primers from Wideners ! I know I went through at least 10/15K at the time ! Anyways Diamondback, smart to at least be planning, get what ya can but don't forget ya gotta still shoot now. Its trying times for sure !

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Although you make a good, real world point. I'd never be sitting around with less than 5k in rifle ammo with an ability to load at least another 5-10 thousand for regular shooting.

    I remember a previous panic where the only guys shooting at a busy weekend shooting spot were Pappabear and I. Why? Because we stacked it deep and didn't have to ration a small inventory.
    I don’t disagree with that at all I keep enough training rounds on hand to weather these panics. Since I started shooting seriously, I’ve never missed out on training due to lack of availability.


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    Right now my own acquisition plan for each load is "buy case-lots, order next case when first gets to half-used until built out to planned max." (Well, buy at each quarter-case until I have a five-case backstock, then switch to half.) In my case I'm a non-hunting suburban apartment dweller looking at Home/Neighborhood D apps, practical engagement range for my environment about 75-100yd tops.
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    You don't need a huge pile of SD stuff...Some, sure, but you'd be better off focusing on training fodder than dumping piles of cash on cases of bonded JSPs.

    I keep a couple hundred rounds of good defense ammo on hand for each caliber, but I focus all my other purchasing and stocking efforts on training ammo and reloading components. The ratio is probably 100:1 training rounds to defense-specific stuff for 9 and 5.56. And while it's not the preference, if push comes to shove, FMJ has put a lot of bodies in the dirt.

    Anyway, if you're just starting stocking up now, you pretty much missed the bus. Buy whatever you can find in stock and as much as you can afford.

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    I am just a regular guy with an AR in a rural area. Not a Special Forces guy, not a militia guy (yet). I practice with the same rounds I stockpile and have only 600 rounds in stock. Now, there is an ammo shortage and I can't get anymore. It is my fault but I have learned from this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Bullseye View Post
    I am just a regular guy with an AR in a rural area. Not a Special Forces guy, not a militia guy (yet). I practice with the same rounds I stockpile and have only 600 rounds in stock. Now, there is an ammo shortage and I can't get anymore. It is my fault but I have learned from this.
    Yeah...I was here once. We all probably were, unless we had an “ammo guardian angel” like my kids have LOL!

    I’m retiring in 5-7 years, and plan to shoot a lot more often then, but done want to have to buy training/range ammo, so I’ve been putting it away for a while. I don’t reload.

    My basic “ratios” is: “couple hundred” SD ammo to “tall stacks” of range ammo


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    I would also advise just having a case of pistol and/or rifle ammo laying around just in case you need/want to take a class.

    I personally have my every day ammo, then my "if a class comes up ammo" and then the stuff I don't touch.

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