Originally Posted by
Arik
Somewhere here or in the other car thread someone mentioned Toyota being old tech, which is true, and that's what I love about them. Using something that's been proven instead of switching it up every few years and chasing gremlins. Their old 4.7 V8 were solid and know for going a million miles. Same with the 2.2 and 2.7 4cyl. My Solara with the 2.2 4cyl went 300k miles without much maintenance. Almost no maintenance really.
To be fair it's not just about Toyotas. Ford 4.6 V8 that was used in trucks, Lincoln Towncars and Crown Vics. As well as the 4.0 v6. Chevy's 4.2lt v6 and 5.7. Jeep's old 4.0 straight six!! Honda's 2.2 4cyl
I know I'm forgetting a bunch more. This is just what comes to mind immediately. That's what I love about them. Rugged and ultra low AND inexpensive maintenance.
Yep, that was me. It’s funny, it’s the biggest complaint about Toyota and also at the same time one of their greatest strengths. They put a good deal of time, money and intention in engineering a durable engine and drivetrain and then stick with it for a long time making small refinements over its life.
It’s one of my favorite things about Toyota. But I always hear people complaining about it.
They’re used to Ford and Chevy having 20 different engines to choose from, which is cool to have options, however Ford and Chevy never seem to get it right with That whole long lasting Concept.
Don’t get me wrong, they don’t make crap, they just don’t engineer things to last a long time in a quantity scale. I always hear stories of “my Ford lasted XXXXXX miles with no issues” and for sure they can make some good ones, same as Chevy.
The problem comes from a larger sample size and the broad issues they have over and over again with drivetrains.
I’ve owned a few fords, and a few chevys. The thing they all had in common was right around 130-150k the transmissions started to have issues. Slipping, not able to stay in the power band, etc.
Toyota’s can have issues as well, just as all manufacturers do, but on a quantity scale they have far fewer and the interval is much longer.
That 5 speed transmission on the 1grfe I had was basically brand new at 250K.
One of the biggest complaints is “I hate Toyota’s 5 speed or 6 speed, why not an 8 or 10 speed”. Well look at all the issues with other manufacturers 8 and 10 speeds and that’s your answer right there.
I’ll take bullet proof reliable Over better mpg any day. I’ll take tried and true work horse over unknown quantity any day.
I’d love to see toyota offer their diesel Engine lines here without having to Pay the tax/import them. That would be a game changer.
I’ve owned and wrenched on a lot of vehicles over the years. Toyota has given me consistent reliability and ease of use from a maintenance stand point. They are engineered very well and by far the easiest vehicles to work on at the home garage.
I have spread sheets on every vehicle I have owned, what maintenance I did, when I did it and How much it cost.
Looking through the data, Toyota always comes out as the lowest lifecycle cost and the best return on investment for me, by a large margin.
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