Jo Jorgensen

[chuckman]

I’ll vote republican and then go take a shower. I can’t stand Trump, and 95% of the do-nothing coward lying rinos.

But look at everything that’s going on . . . . . Not sitting this one out. I’ll vote for that orange narcissist simply because the crazies and commies hate him

Mostly same. I like many of Trump's policies, but there's a lot about him I just don't like. But I will hold my nose and swallow. If North Carolina wasn't a battleground state where I know every 'R' vote counts, I would vote for her.

Oh, how much I loathe the 2-party system....

[AKDoug]

I keep reminding my libertarian friends that they are going about this the wrong way. I tell them to get off their ass and run for local office, then grow it from there. If libertarians are going to grow as a party they need to start putting in real efforts on the local level. You are not going to go anywhere by just throwing out a presidential candidate every four years.

Personally, I think I have a better chance of fixing the republican party than advancing the libertarian party, so that's where my effort lie. There are a host of good republicans in current circulation that would do a good job with far more experience than JoJo. Dan Crenshaw and Nikki Haley immediately come to mind.

[WillBrink]

I was gonna start a thread on her, so glad someone did.

[WillBrink]

Vote for Jo and get Joe.

Why? Why it not vote for Jo and get Trump? Personally I vote my conscience and it's a vote for who I give the vote to, and whether that impacts another candidate aint my doing or my problem.

Having said that, I voted for Johnson in 16, but will likely vote for Trump this time around.

[grizzlyblake]

Why would anyone waste the time and energy to go stand in line and vote for someone that statistically has zero chance of winning an election?

If it's about making yourself feel good you'd do better to just do a write in for someone you really like who actually matches 100% of your viewpoints.

I would have much more respect for someone who writes in Garand Thumb or Joe Rogan over some obscure third party candidate.

[WillBrink]

Why would anyone waste the time and energy to go stand in line and vote for someone that statistically has zero chance of winning an election?

If it's about making yourself feel good you'd do better to just do a write in for someone you really like who actually matches 100% of your viewpoints.

I would have much more respect for someone who writes in Garand Thumb or Joe Rogan over some obscure third party candidate.

Because they think the two candidates equally suck, think the two parties are more alike than they are different, wanna send a message and be part of the process, and refuse to do the lesser of two evils thing.

If more people voted their conscience vs "anyone but that guy" approach, we may see some actual changes.

We have the lowest voter turn out of any democracy on the planet and that's what people should be concerned about. I do tell people to write in someone they feel they could support vs not vote at all thinking that sends a message.

Voting your conscience is not a wasted vote

Not voting is a wasted vote

[glocktogo]

Because they think the two candidates equally suck, think the two parties are more alike than they are different, wanna send a message and be part of the process, and refuse to do the lesser of two evils thing.

If more people voted their conscience vs "anyone but that guy" approach, we may see some actual changes.

We have the lowest voter turn out of any democracy on the planet and that's what people should be concerned about. I do tell people to write in someone they feel they could support vs not vote at all thinking that sends a message.

Voting your conscience is not a wasted vote

Not voting is a wasted vote

At this point we collectively have the dumbest electorate on any democracy on the planet. If more of them voted the stupidity would be even worse.

[3 AE]

We are at a new tipping point. The last one was the 2016 election. So many people were so smug that Hilary was going to win, and their vision of a socialist America was going to come to fruition. Well, Trump with our vote slowed down the hemorrhaging. Anyone who throws their vote to a third party is doing exactly what the Liberals want. Just remember what you helped reap if senile Joe and his socialist running mate win the election. They will trash this Republic. You can kiss your guns and your ass goodbye. Forums like this will be banned for the security and safety of the general public. We need Trump for the next four years. You can bet that the 2024 election will usher in a leftist president. That's when the real war will take place between us and them.

[Jellybean]

... We need Trump for the next four years. You can bet that the 2024 election will usher in a leftist president. That's when the real war will take place between us and them.

And THEN, not now, if the Libertarian's were smart, would be the time to pounce, unless the Repubs pull an amazing candidate out of their ass after Trump.
If the R's pick a pathetic runner in '24 (likely), then suddenly that third party gets a LOT more inviting for anyone not interested in "democratic socialism".
But... you watch. They won't. Or will bungle it handily. Just like 2016.

[Adrenaline_6]

Because they think the two candidates equally suck, think the two parties are more alike than they are different, wanna send a message and be part of the process, and refuse to do the lesser of two evils thing.

If more people voted their conscience vs "anyone but that guy" approach, we may see some actual changes.

We have the lowest voter turn out of any democracy on the planet and that's what people should be concerned about. I do tell people to write in someone they feel they could support vs not vote at all thinking that sends a message.

Voting your conscience is not a wasted vote

Not voting is a wasted vote

Though there is some truth to your statements, they also show you are either 1. Refusing to see the big picture 2. Ignoring it 3. Not caring about it or a combination of a couple or all 3.

You can try and spin it anyway you want, but then there is thing called reality that is always waiting to kick you in the nuts.