Couple in MO being held as 2A heroes...

[Esq.]

Yup, people forget about principles if they detect political or class differences that they don't like. Its really a symptom of a sick society to throw away principles because of class envy or political differences. We act like the other side when we do this. Especially, when a win (not being convicted) for this couple, is a win for the 2nd and for us, no matter how much we find them to be horrible people

It doesn't make logical sense to hope they are charged and convicted, its an emotional response.

I hope your principles keep you warm in the Gulag.

How many times have we "won" only to get NOTHING for our efforts? Why is that? Why do we find ourselves in the position we are in? Why do we always get Roberts, Souter, Brennan? Why?

Because the Left understands that only WINNING mattters. Winners have the luxury of principles, losers get a shallow grave. That's how this works, those are the rules whether you acknowledge them or not.

[OH58D]

Was this gate on their actual property or the gate to the neighborhood? I haven’t followed this situation that closely so pardon my ignorance but I was under the impression they broke into a gated neighborhood to go protest at the Mayor’s house. Did they walk into the McCloskey’s property?

Not that it excuses the group that broke into the neighborhood but do you have the right to point a gun at someone on your street if they are not even on your property? That’s the only potential issue I can see popping up from this, would have helped if the wife had a little better muzzle and trigger control.

For my MBA, I studied a little of contract law in real estate. In a gated community, anything outside of the individual home lots are common areas owned by all of the residents. The wall, the gate, the sidewalks, the streets are property owned jointly by the landowners. These specifications are included in what are known as protective covenants. These covenants can specify what kind of a house you can build, things you can do with your house and lot, but also the commonly owned property. It's kind of a high end HOA contract.

The gate that was destroyed was owned by McCloskey and the other owners. The street and sidewalk the protesters were marching down is commonly owned property that includes the McCloskeys. Call it a private compound if you will, but the protesters were trespassing and destroyed property to gain entrance to private property.

[JoshNC]

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F************ck yes.

[Diamondback]

F************ck yes.

Tough talk from Baker, but you know she's gonna fight tooth and nail to the bitter end. He needs to put a bug in someone's ear who actually CAN initiate an Involuntary Removal process... I doubt the voters would Recall so that means finding a crime and charging her.

[john armond]

Tough talk from Baker, but you know she's gonna fight tooth and nail to the bitter end. He needs to put a bug in someone's ear who actually CAN initiate an Involuntary Removal process... I doubt the voters would Recall so that means finding a crime and charging her.

Paging Duke Lacross

[Diamondback]

Paging Duke Lacross

Excellent point. Nifong her ass!

[MountainRaven]

No, thats a recent snapshot. Their donation history goes back to the 90s and they supported some of the very worst anti gun politicians in the nation.

So did Trump. I bet you're going to vote for him, anyway.

[SteyrAUG]

So did Trump. I bet you're going to vote for him, anyway.

Given the alternative, yes. And just so we are clear, if the choice was the MO couple or Biden, I'd vote for the MO couple.

Trump is hardly the ideal candidate. He's a born again Republican who is conservative by NY standards. He leaves a LOT to be desired and his track record is iffy at best so far but I'm still confident that Trump on his worst day is better than Hillary on her best day.

If the Dems ran a moderate who wasn't actually a socialist and rabid anti gunner or otherwise not a freaking loon, I'd vote Democrat.

In 2008 there was barely a difference because McCain was the worst GOP candidate I can remember and only things like the Bill Ayers connection and strong ties with Islam prevented me from voting for Obama. And honestly, besides some attempts at gun bans and of course mandatory Obamacare, I was ok with some of his policies and he might have done less damage than McCain.

[LMT Shooter]

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Wow, just..... wow....


If even 25% of people elected to office, at every level of government- city, county, state, & federal- had this sentiment & the grit to follow through in their actions, we would never have gotten to this point.

[Life's a Hillary]

For my MBA, I studied a little of contract law in real estate. In a gated community, anything outside of the individual home lots are common areas owned by all of the residents. The wall, the gate, the sidewalks, the streets are property owned jointly by the landowners. These specifications are included in what are known as protective covenants. These covenants can specify what kind of a house you can build, things you can do with your house and lot, but also the commonly owned property. It's kind of a high end HOA contract.

The gate that was destroyed was owned by McCloskey and the other owners. The street and sidewalk the protesters were marching down is commonly owned property that includes the McCloskeys. Call it a private compound if you will, but the protesters were trespassing and destroyed property to gain entrance to private property.

That’s pretty interesting, thanks for the insight. Will be interesting to see how that impacts using self defense/castle doctrine as a defense.