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    Nearly Arrested Yesterday - Mask issue

    Wednesday evening my wife and daughter accompanied me to Albuquerque where we picked up my son coming home from West Point, New York. He'll be here about a week, then he's heading back out to Fort Indiantown Gap, PA to train with some National Guard soldiers. We spent the night in Albuquerque.

    Yesterday morning we were heading north on I-25 when we did a regular stop in Rio Rancho, New Mexico (US 550) at the Warrior 66 station and convenience store. This is on the Santa Ana Pueblo Reservation. We buy gas and buy bottles of water. Attempting to use my debit card and the machine kept glitching. Told the wife I was going in to have them run the card from inside. By the pumps was a lot of spilled diesel on the ground, and under my feet. I carry a disposable mask in my pocket but when I tried pulling it out, it snagged on keys and fell on the ground, in the diesel. I said a cuss word then proceeded to pull out a heavy bandana of a red and white floral pattern and walked over to the store, holding the bandana over my face with my left hand. When I walked in, the fat Indian woman behind the counter yelled at me and told me I had to leave because I had no mask on. I replied that everything from my nose to my chin and the sides of my face were covered and I wanted to give her my card to run the gas purchase. She just yelled for me to get out, then she left the counter and ran outside to a parked Santa Ana Pueblo police vehicle. I watched at the counter while she was telling the Pueblo officer something.

    At that point I decided to leave and get fuel somewhere else. As I walked out the door, this police officer (also on the portly side) ordered me to stop right where I was and he proceeded to tell me that he could arrest and fine me right then and there for violating the State mask order ($100 fine and up to 6 months in jail). I walked right past him saying nothing and he ordered me to stop again. At this point the wife saw what was happening and drove our truck up to where I was at and she got out. I turned and he was on his radio asking for three additional units, then told me to stop moving and he was going to arrest me for violating the State mandate. I looked at his name badge and it said R. Holguin. I told him my face was covered and I want to be on my way. He told me to shut up. I then lost it and called him a F__king piece of shit and everyone I had ever met in the past named Holguin was a giant tub of lard. That got him worked up and he told me he was arresting me for Verbal Assault as well. I told him good luck with that and did I lose First Amendment Rights as soon as I entered the Santa Ana Pueblo? Verbal Assault is a non-crime.

    I continued walking towards the truck to get in, and he moved behind the truck, taking the plate number, and standing there to prevent us from moving. In the meantime the wife was on the phone with a law office in Santa Fe our family has retained for decades, who is politically connected. She actually got our attorney and she put him on the speaker of her phone where the portly Santa Ana Pueblo Officer could hear. The statement by the attorney was basically telling officer tubby that legal action would be filed against him and the Pueblo and it would be advisable if he were to let this drop. At that point officer tubby got on the radio, stepped off to the side and told us to leave the Santa Ana Pueblo immediately and not come back to that gas station again. We left.

    Just for reference, here is our own governor holding a similar bandana up to her face in recent months. Mine was providing the same coverage.
    Last edited by OH58D; 07-10-20 at 10:26.
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    Glad you got out of the situation without being arrested. Fat lady and lard boy are obviously drunk on self importance


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    Glad it turned out OK for you , but "loosing it" with an Officer usually isn't the best tactic. No doubt he sounds like an ass hat though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diving dave View Post
    Glad it turned out OK for you , but "loosing it" with an Officer usually isn't the best tactic. No doubt he sounds like an ass hat though.
    I was there conducting my business, utilizing the best way I could to comply with the mask mandate, and that still wasn't enough. I wasn't there to reason with someone who obviously wanted to make an example of me. Arresting me for "Verbal Assault"? That tells you right there that piece of shit was a little badge heavy.
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    Glad you made it out without further incident. Lucky that you have a lawyer on retainer and speed dial as most people don't.

    Our country is going down the tube faster than we can paddle the other direction.
    Last edited by Whiskey_Bravo; 07-10-20 at 10:57.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskey_Bravo View Post
    Glad you made it out without further incident. Lucky that you have a lawyer on retainer and speed dial as most people don't.

    Our country is going down the tube faster paddle the other direction.
    When your family has been here for 12 generations, you have lots of connections in different parts of government and society. There has only been one other fine and arrest for the mask order and that was down in Roswell. I think this cop wanted to make a name for himself.

    It's getting worse here. The governor was on TV yesterday afternoon announcing that they are backtracking on our phase 1 re-openings and restaurants and breweries will no have no inside option for seating and dining. Now only outside at 50% capacity. This goes into effect Monday.
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    This was tribal police? Are they deputized / granted arrest powers by the State of New Mexico? If not, they probably don't have legal authority over you, assuming you're not a member of the tribe.

    The state of the law for "indian country" (FYI the proper legal term under federal law) is really a cluster.

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    Wear your mask, have spares, don't talk to people unless absolutely necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    Wear your mask, have spares, don't talk to people unless absolutely necessary.
    Or not.
    Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

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    I feel your pain.

    I am so tired of being told what to do.

    For what it is worth, I have never used a mask, I wear a keffiyeh. My face is actually better protected due to the cloth being multiple layered.

    I have had a lot of people come up to me and ask me what it is, and some ask me where I got it.

    I tell them the truth, I collected it and a whole bunch more off terrorist I had shot.

    That shuts them up and let's them understand I don't wear it because I support haji.

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