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    Cashless Society

    Cash transactions are private transactions, and privacy is a civil right. Going cashless means that information for everything you buy electronically likely gets stored on an NSA server in Utah for later use.

    I’ve seen a few businesses in my area post signs that they only take a card payment due to COVID because cash is filthy, and/or I’ve seen some places claim that there’s a nation-wide shortage of coins, so they only take card.

    This is a serious concern to me, and a precursor to a larger crackdown on our liberty. The mechanism to track buying habits must be in place first, before outlawing a wide range of common use items tomorrow. I don’t like where society is headed. This is a crisis that statists and traitors are not only “never letting go to waste”, but they are charging straight toward the end zone unopposed.

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    Cash is a two party transaction. No one else needs to know, be involved, or approve. Electronic transactions are at least 5 party transactions. You, your bank, the processor, his bank, him. Government, hackers, etc aside, any of those outside parties could (and many already do) chose to prohibit your transaction as a matter of "policy", let alone law. If cash goes away freedom will follow.
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    I have knowledge of countries that have switched to their own crypto type currency, and control of the population is always near the top of the list.

    The idiots in Congress have passed laws that are supposed to stop money laundering but all it does is make life harder for American citizens doing business internationally. Also not 1 dime less has been laundered due to the stupid laws.

    But rest assured even in a cashless society, we have ways to hide transactions.

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    Wait till people start getting banned from visa, mastercard, paypal ect for their political beliefs. Its already happened to some high profile people, its only a matter of time before they start targeting your average person to make them financially persona non grata.
    Last edited by vicious_cb; 07-12-20 at 21:55.

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    As Yoni has said. There are ways. Barter system. Gold and silver coins. Art. It's all been / being done. Welcome to the underground economy boys.
    Go Ukraine! Piss on the Russian dead.

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    Freedom concerns aside, please let this never happen.

    I had a screaming deal going on 5 very desirable HK rifles but because my credit card was linked to my bank account the security features prevented the transaction even though my actual balance could have easily covered everything many times over.

    Even worse it was out of state and on the weekend so I couldn't get an actual person on the phone with the authority to override the safety feature. But this did completely lock my account even though I asked them specifically not to. That made paying for gas and food on the way home especially interesting.

    Monday by the time I got someone on the phone and explained what they did to me, all I got was a "We're very sorry but it was for your own protection." I switched banks that week but found out no matter where you go all banks now basically have the same stupid feature. So right now your money isn't even your money if your are out of your spending pattern.

    Pretty sure even if I went to an ATM I would have had the same problem and a withdraw limit. Still really angry about this one more than 10 years later. If I had the foresight to carry $6,000 I would have been fine, but then I had to worry about walking around with 6 grand, you just can't win.

    In normal life, I've had my wife call up to dispute a charge (usually some online purchase who accidentally double dipped the card and charged her twice) and bank customer service always does the same thing when you call to dispute, they lock the account until you can "come in Monday" and straighten things out. My favorite is when they decide it's prudent to lock both cards for "safety", I'm out running errands and pop into the hardware store and suddenly I have no spending power and I can't even grab some fries and a coke on the way home despite the actual balance in the bank. All because some minimum wage flunkie ran a card twice because credit cards are hard.

    Once upon a time I used to carry $100 on me at all times. I think I'll start doing that again.
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    When it happens lead will become the major currency.
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    Everything going on now is about taking away our freedoms and taking control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I have knowledge of countries that have switched to their own crypto type currency, and control of the population is always near the top of the list.
    By all means, enlighten us.


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    I have traveled in Scandinavia, especially Denmark and Sweden. The Swedes are going away from cash, and even when I was there 10 years ago, everything was Debit Card transactions or bank to bank movement of currency. Here's a two year old article from NPR, and it discusses the microchip used for transactions. This is not Alex Jones/Info Wars stuff - it's real:

    Thousands Of Swedes Are Inserting Microchips Under Their Skin

    https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/65880...der-their-skin
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