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    Beyond characterizing the Covid 19 genome, there is absolutely no science about Covid 19. There are plenty of studies but no consensus. The mask situation is the worst pseudo science imaginable. A cloth mask is used in medicine to stop bacteria in the operating room from falling out of the doctor's mouth and nose into your open body. But virus pass through these masks and that crappy cloth mask you are wearing it the material is not even there. So do the tiniest water droplets so it really does not matter if the virus rides water droplets or is caught by humans from virus floating about in the air.

    So what are masks then? There are only two possibilities.

    A. A mask is a political statement whereby you are made to acknowledge a political philosophy and become subservient to it by wearing that symbol. Like wearing a Star of David if you were Jewish in Nazi Germany.
    B. A mask is a very faulty medical device which is designed to protect other people and which you are required to wear.

    What is wrong with A and B?

    This is still America, isn't it? You have First Amendment rights and should never be required in any way, overt or covert, to wear a statement of someone else's political beliefs.

    As for being required to undergo a medical procedure to protect others, that has been decided since 1946. This same reasoning was the Nazi defense as to why prisoners should be experimented upon without their permission. The Nazis said altitude and malaria experimentation was for the greater good and would benefit a greater number of people than it would harm. The Nuerenburg Court never let them finish this argument. The fact they were given a medical procedure without the patients permission, to benefit others or not, was the deciding factor. It is illegal. And it has been illegal since.

    Refusing the Mask is a small thing but an important thing. You can find merchants who will take you without the mask. My local gunstore had 8 people in it and only 2 people wore masks but not management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand58742 View Post
    Just FYI, Walmart is going to mandatory masks nationwide starting Monday.
    Won't make a difference to me, it is one of the few places where I take several precautions. Thankfully I live in a county that has a low number of new cases and is relatively "low risk" so it's really not an issue to me. Fast food is still drive thru only and most business are still closing earlier than normal, but we are getting back to normal for the most part.

    But when I wear throw on a shemagh, I don't feel like I'm having anything forced on me and I'm not feeling like I'm showing everyone else how safe I'm being. It's just another kind of fire extinguisher to me, better to have and not need than need and not have. I'd have thought people who carry firearms would mostly get that idea.

    But at the same time I'm not seeing anyone getting yelled at because they don't have a Threat Level 5 Hazmat suit on in the grocery store.

    There is a logical middle ground between the two extremes of insanity. A face mask is NOT a vaccine and it is no guarantee of protection but at the same time it does provide some level of prevention in the spread of C19 and a lot of other stuff. So for me "something" is better than "nothing" and it falls under due diligence.

    I think the bigger issues are people losing jobs and major change of life issues than if somebody has a mask or not in the grocery store. I also think a lot of this is zip code dependent.

    The big issue is do we do this now and successfully suppress the threat or does this become the "new normal." I'm willing to do a LOT if it means we achieve containment, but if people want us to become Japan where a lot of the population wears face masks in public all the time, well I'm not ready for that just yet.
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    **** that

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    The usa ha become a country of obedient conformists.
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    How long till masks are mandated 24/7, including at home?

    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    The usa ha become a country of obedient conformists.
    ...and a lot of the don’t tread on me gun community has fallen right in line as well revealing those who are just as likely to fall in line on 2A issues as well.

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    The level of stupidity going on in this country continues to re-amaze me on a daily basis.... and I'm no rocket scientist. I was talking to my buddy yesterday when his wife called him. She was up at the Norton VA Waltards. She told him that if you weren't wearing a mask, the employees at the front door were linking arms and not letting you in. I wish I was there. I would have asked them if they had the right to prevent me from picking up my life essential prescriptions that were waiting for me at their pharma. I could have retired today....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Won't make a difference to me, it is one of the few places where I take several precautions. Thankfully I live in a county that has a low number of new cases and is relatively "low risk" so it's really not an issue to me. Fast food is still drive thru only and most business are still closing earlier than normal, but we are getting back to normal for the most part.

    But when I wear throw on a shemagh, I don't feel like I'm having anything forced on me and I'm not feeling like I'm showing everyone else how safe I'm being. It's just another kind of fire extinguisher to me, better to have and not need than need and not have. I'd have thought people who carry firearms would mostly get that idea.

    But at the same time I'm not seeing anyone getting yelled at because they don't have a Threat Level 5 Hazmat suit on in the grocery store.

    There is a logical middle ground between the two extremes of insanity. A face mask is NOT a vaccine and it is no guarantee of protection but at the same time it does provide some level of prevention in the spread of C19 and a lot of other stuff. So for me "something" is better than "nothing" and it falls under due diligence.

    I think the bigger issues are people losing jobs and major change of life issues than if somebody has a mask or not in the grocery store. I also think a lot of this is zip code dependent.

    The big issue is do we do this now and successfully suppress the threat or does this become the "new normal." I'm willing to do a LOT if it means we achieve containment, but if people want us to become Japan where a lot of the population wears face masks in public all the time, well I'm not ready for that just yet.
    Then why haven’t you been wearing a mask all the time in public prior to this and doubly so during flu season?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZGXtreme View Post
    ...and a lot of the don’t tread on me gun community has fallen right in line as well revealing those who are just as likely to fall in line on 2A issues as well.
    Don't pay taxes, have a drivers license, liability insurance on your car, wear clothes when you walk by a playground, obey traffic laws, or pull over for emergency vehicles, right? Because that's just the man restricting your freedoms.

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    Don't pay taxes, have a drivers license, liability insurance on your car, wear clothes when you walk by a playground, obey traffic laws, or pull over for emergency vehicles, right? Because that's just the man restricting your freedoms.

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    My theory is they're working towards a mail in only election. After they defraud the voters of their pick, they're be a miracle reduction in positive tests, imbeciles can go to sports events again, and the news will only run happy times stories to keep stupid asses from figuring out they just got shafted.

    I suggest this because the news here in AZ is constantly reporting that AZ is behind in testing.... And you can't fake positive results if the tests aren't administered.

    Bingo
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