Originally Posted by
SteyrAUG
It's an idea, but only that.
We know evolution is a process that exists, we just don't know how that process originated.
We know what we know, we can guess about what we don't know for sure, but until we have a way of proving we are right...at the end of the day we don't know.
I think everything ascribed to the supernatural is simply our placeholder until we come to understand it, that is assuming it actually exists and we are perceiving things correctly. We could probably discuss the nuances of this for years without accomplishing anything more than a slightly more correct understanding of each others beliefs.
But science, if it's actual science, doesn't have a need to fill in all the blanks. The blanks are why science exists. If we truly believed we knew everything and truly believed our assumptions are correct, there wouldn't be any need for science because we'd believe that we already have all of the answers.
The reality of science is that every time we actually get an answer that is complete and definitive, it generates a hundred new questions that we didn't even know enough to ask. If science was as you say, quantum wouldn't exist because it threw everything we were confident and comfortable about into disarray and there isn't a scientist in the world who wouldn't love to be the person to arrive at a unified theory between relativity and quantum, so far there are no takers.
Science would have preferred an infinite and steady state universe that was without beginning even if we couldn't explain why. It was easier to accept, but once we discovered an expanding universe we had to accept a time when there was no space and no time, and that just created a whole bunch of new problems that we haven't completely solved and probably never will because you can't observe anything that happened before the beginning.
Where did life first come from, doesn't matter if it happened here or came adrift on the cosmic sea, it happened first someplace. And again, we don't have any idea how that happened. We know what life forms are made of and we know how life developed from simple forms to more complex life. But we can only guess at how "creation" for lack of a better word, happened.
And if there is a creator that exists in the natural universe, then the supernatural is just another thing that exists that we have difficulty incorporating into a universe that we wish was completely governed by newtonian physics that doesn't seem to play by the rules, kind of like quantum.
So if somebody is genuinely a person of science, they will be the first to say "we don't know." We begin from "we don't know", sometimes we have an idea that we believe might be correct and when we are capable of checking it by repeatable experiments or methods of falsification we sometimes arrive at an answer and typically it is one that was not expected, and they tend to create new and more difficult questions.
If science is as you say it is, scientists would have rejected most of what we know today because we already had an answer or a really good guess. Evolution is complicated, quantum is complicated, an expanding universe that seems to have began from a singularity is complicated. These aren't the results most scientists were hoping for, all we managed to learn is that we don't know as much as we believed we did previous to these discoveries.
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