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Thread: No Longer in Shadows, Pentagon’s U.F.O. Unit Will Make Some Findings Public

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    They aren’t alien craft. They’re humans from the future, with very strict orders to avoid contact with us. But accidents happen, and they try to get away quickly. Also, being human, some can’t help but break the rules, and loiter in an area long after they’ve been observed.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology...en-not-chinese

    I’m very interested in the wording “not made on this earth.” Why not this “planet” ? This implies that the vehicle were made on a different earth, which to me, alludes to an earth of a different time, or a different universe. Like I said, I believe they are us, more specifically scientists doing studies, and travel in and out of different time periods or universes is HIGHLY regulated where/when ever they’re from.
    More gross speculation. There is NOTHING proving they are not of this earth, or not of this time on earth. This is nothing more than Marco Rubio HOPING they are something alien and not simply something from China.

    So again, where we sit.

    We have zero evidence of extra terrestrial visitors, space crafts or artifacts. We also have zero evidence for visitors from the future, time vehicles or artifacts. We have NOTHING.

    What we have is CLOWNS.

    Harry Reid is a CLOWN who has stated "he believes" we might find something and that the government "may have" compelling evidence of some kind.

    Marco Rubio is a CLOWN who is hoping some of the objects might be extra terrestrials and not simply Chinese tech.

    But what we do have in abundance is massive clickbait for morons and idiots. Same people who thought they were gonna storm Area 51 and drag out the evidence for everyone to see.

    But it will be a giant NOTHING BURGER. People will continue to allude to "secret government projects and scientists speaking under the cover of anonymity. They will describe amazing things that they will declare have to be extra terrestrial in nature without being able to answer 10 scientifically based questions that any real researcher would ask.

    I can't believe people can't read key phrases the invalidate everything else a person says. I can't believe people who consider themselves Constitutional experts can't navigate through a journalists game of three card monty.

    I Can't Believe I'm Even Having This Discussion.

    When you bring me an artifact that is already completely vetted as NOT OF THIS EARTH and nobody in their respective fields can tell you what it is made of, what makes it work or something like that THEN we can BEGIN this discussion.
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    Time for a snickers steyr. LoL

    I haven’t seen any definitive proof either, besides the gimbal/go fast/ etc footage. (Which is not definitive)

    I’ve just always thought that strange unexplained technological phenomena would be time experiments.

    “If traveling backward through time is possible, why haven’t we already met time travelers from the future? They can visit any period.”

    That’s a great question. I believe the answer, and I have ZERO EVIDENCE mind you, is that they have orders NOT to meet with anyone, try to avoid being seen, try to stay stealthy, and gtfo if they confirm they’ve been spotted. Again I have no evidence . . . . . that just seem more plausible to me than aliens from outer space. Look at what technology humanity has created since 1920. That’s a TON of innovation in a small window. I imagine by 2120, it’s possible that we will have a technological singularity and an understanding that the laws of physics can be bent or broken could occur.

    But again, I don’t know ANY of this for sure. It’s also entirely plausible that a phony alien narrative could be pushed to get control of the populous. They’re already pushing for cashless, disarmament, surveillance state, driverless cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    More gross speculation. There is NOTHING proving they are not of this earth, or not of this time on earth. This is nothing more than Marco Rubio HOPING they are something alien and not simply something from China.

    So again, where we sit.

    We have zero evidence of extra terrestrial visitors, space crafts or artifacts. We also have zero evidence for visitors from the future, time vehicles or artifacts. We have NOTHING.

    What we have is CLOWNS.

    Harry Reid is a CLOWN who has stated "he believes" we might find something and that the government "may have" compelling evidence of some kind.

    Marco Rubio is a CLOWN who is hoping some of the objects might be extra terrestrials and not simply Chinese tech.

    But what we do have in abundance is massive clickbait for morons and idiots. Same people who thought they were gonna storm Area 51 and drag out the evidence for everyone to see.

    But it will be a giant NOTHING BURGER. People will continue to allude to "secret government projects and scientists speaking under the cover of anonymity. They will describe amazing things that they will declare have to be extra terrestrial in nature without being able to answer 10 scientifically based questions that any real researcher would ask.

    I can't believe people can't read key phrases the invalidate everything else a person says. I can't believe people who consider themselves Constitutional experts can't navigate through a journalists game of three card monty.

    I Can't Believe I'm Even Having This Discussion.

    When you bring me an artifact that is already completely vetted as NOT OF THIS EARTH and nobody in their respective fields can tell you what it is made of, what makes it work or something like that THEN we can BEGIN this discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Time for a snickers steyr. LoL

    But again, I don’t know ANY of this for sure. It’s also entirely plausible that a phony alien narrative could be pushed to get control of the populous. They’re already pushing for cashless, disarmament, surveillance state, driverless cars.
    At this point I consider this more plausible. To push it to an extreme comic book level, the NY Times will tell us all breathlessly (in a 6 part expose')how we were visited by an advanced vulcan like culture that wanted to help usher us into the greater galactic civilization, and help us develope meaningful space travel, prolong life and cure cancer but as we are lead buy an orange skinned barbarian elevated by rascists and fascists, we are undeserving of the help and weve been left to wither on the vine for a few more millenia.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    they have orders NOT to meet with anyone, try to avoid being seen, try to stay stealthy, and gtfo if they confirm they’ve been spotted.
    Doesn't matter what the "rules" are: The first thing humans would be to figure out how to use time travel to wage war on each other. And the second thing they'd do would be to figure out how to steal things with it.

    And this is all beside the biggest theoretical problem with time travel: Making sure you can get back to `your` "future" and not ending up in another future where maybe time travel hasn't been invented or your mother got an abortion or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtrock82 View Post
    At this point I consider this more plausible. To push it to an extreme comic book level, the NY Times will tell us all breathlessly (in a 6 part expose')how we were visited by an advanced vulcan like culture that wanted to help usher us into the greater galactic civilization, and help us develope meaningful space travel, prolong life and cure cancer but as we are lead buy an orange skinned barbarian elevated by rascists and fascists, we are undeserving of the help and weve been left to wither on the vine for a few more millenia.
    Watch the TV show “Colony” as a bit of predictive programming. The show ended too soon, but my theory of the story arc was there are no aliens and man was doing it all. Anyway it is entertaining and there are pretty women in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainRaven View Post
    Doesn't matter what the "rules" are: The first thing humans would be to figure out how to use time travel to wage war on each other. And the second thing they'd do would be to figure out how to steal things with it.

    And this is all beside the biggest theoretical problem with time travel: Making sure you can get back to `your` "future" and not ending up in another future where maybe time travel hasn't been invented or your mother got an abortion or whatever.
    Sounds almost like the fundamental premise of the Command & Conquer: Red Alert game franchise. Einstein builds a time machine and whacks Hitler in '24, inadvertently unleashing Stalin on the world; later the Russkies do the same to Einstein and without all th supertech Einstein contributed to that timeline's world Japan runs amok. Skip 2 and 3, the original is the only one that can be taken as serious alternate history rather than campy action-comedy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Sounds almost like the fundamental premise of the Command & Conquer: Red Alert game franchise.
    Or like one of the episodes from Love, Death & Robots on Netflix. Whimsical look at how going back in time to make coulda-woulda-shoulda replays ultimately results in a worse future (usually). Not sure what the theory is called or who came up with it but there is an opinion that whatever world one exists in is the best possible one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    So again, where we sit.

    I Can't Believe I'm Even Having This Discussion.
    Then leave would you, the only CLOWN I see is you, if you don't want to discuss this topic then leave already... JFC!!!
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    Yes, We Have UFO Crash Wreckage. With the New York Times chasing crashed saucers and Trump talking on-the-record, Roswell remains the original sin of the UFO cover-up.

    https://medium.com/on-the-trail-of-t...e-e1b2b2b03097

    The New York Times Running with Fox News?

    There’s a rumor buzzing about among UAP activists and researchers that the New York Times has reporters out making calls about actual crash retrievals of unidentified flying objects on American soil. Take a moment and appreciate what this might mean if it turns out to be true. That would mean the nation’s most famous newspaper may be on the verge of stating that we have recovered materials from crashes, and that the technology is not ours (the U.S.) or theirs (China, Russia), and comes from another source. Do the math on that one.

    Why in the world would respectable journalists like Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean, working in the bosom of respectability that the New York Times, want to chase that old canard of crashed saucers out in the desert?

    For starters, because there’s always been lots of anecdotal evidence and witness testimony from some key people. Only it just hasn’t been the Smoking Wreckage that proof demands. That, plus you’d be so far out on a limb as a journalist that you might never crawl your way back. And that might have been true until just last year.

    That’s when Luis Elizondo, who ran the government’s AATIP, Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, said out loud what we knew he was thinking. While talking to Fox’s Tucker Carlson, he said that, yes, the U.S. had the goods, as in actual physical wreckage. Former military intelligence, Elizondo quit the government’s UFO program to live the activist’s life and advocate for new thinking and transparency about this reality.
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