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    Commenting just so I get any updates on possible IWI ammo...

    I use the 77 gr for SBR and 115 gr for pistol. It seems the 115gr razorcore also feeds the Stribog, too...

    If you want to see competitive pricing, AmmoSeek has an app that I use at least as a reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    Commenting just so I get any updates on possible IWI ammo...

    I use the 77 gr for SBR and 115 gr for pistol. It seems the 115gr razorcore also feeds the Stribog, too...

    If you want to see competitive pricing, AmmoSeek has an app that I use at least as a reference.
    My SBR loves the 77gr stuff. I've always wanted to try the M193.
    It is from the construction of underground FEMA camps. I can't say more because there a guy parked in front of house in an AMC Pacer. He is acting like he talking on the phone, but I know better.

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    I don't shoot much in the summer anyway. Hot. Humid. Lightning.

    Minimum shooting to stay proficient (non-leo) can be done with 50 rds per quarter IMO. (Per pistol type)

    So, if you plan to shoot/carry for 30 more years, you'd need 6k rounds minimum in that caliber.

    More for spouses, kids, inheritances, etc. It's easy to see why a person would want to stack tens or hundreds of thousands of rounds.

    Of course, now isn't the time to do it!

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    I haven't purchased a single gun and hardly anything else gun related since the COVID and riots started. I don't understand why people are buying all these guns and ammo when they are only going to either A. Bury it to rust away or get lost to the ages or B. hand it over for disposal to the state or local PD in a few short years. Seems like a waste of money to me. My Nike stock has almost doubled in 2 1/2 years. That seems like a much wiser investment. Hell if you don't like Nike, property or food stocks is certainly wise.

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    Locally in Spokane and Wenatchee WA I have found a good amount of 22 and some 45 and 556. 9MM is out everywhere. I have been actual gun shopping so can’t comment on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightvisionary View Post
    I haven't purchased a single gun and hardly anything else gun related since the COVID and riots started. I don't understand why people are buying all these guns and ammo when they are only going to either A. Bury it to rust away or get lost to the ages or B. hand it over for disposal to the state or local PD in a few short years. Seems like a waste of money to me. My Nike stock has almost doubled in 2 1/2 years. That seems like a much wiser investment. Hell if you don't like Nike, property or food stocks is certainly wise.
    Just sell all yours now then while the sellin is good.

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    Would love to see yoni pull this off. Will be a great service to those who waited too long. While the gettin has been good for some time, priorities get in the way sometimes and not everyone can afford to have ten cases of ammo stacked for a rainy day.

    After the 2013 era panic, I resolved to get into loading once components were available. For those on the fence about loading, pull the trigger when availability allows. At worst itís a back up plan to factory ammo availability.

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    We are working on this, we got a little side tracked due to having to meet a dead line on a grant program.

    With Corona, we have cut the only place we are willing to cut and that is administration, we let everyone go but our admin director.

    Between Corona and the state of the world in general, an exotic beach, great cigar and beverage with a few friends is sounding very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron3 View Post
    I don't shoot much in the summer anyway. Hot. Humid. Lightning.

    Minimum shooting to stay proficient (non-leo) can be done with 50 rds per quarter IMO. (Per pistol type)!
    I would say a minimum of 50 -100 rds weekly or biweekly. Shooting a box of ammo every 3 months just isn't enough. Also, hitting a paper target, while stationary, at your local indoor range from 5-20 yds isn't enough either. JMHO.

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    Local mega gunstore (LMGS) got 75 thousand rounds of brass blazer 9mm in. Sold out in 3 days with a 2 box limit per customer at $16 per box. Been like this for a while. They normally have multiple pallets of brass Blazer out.

    That store is in an old grocery store and has 7 grocery style checkout lines for guns (belt and all). Over the last month they are typically 5-6 people deep across all seven lines. Which essentially means a 9mm/40 handgun, self defense shotgun, or an AR is walking out the door every 4-5 minutes.

    The demographic is hugely different. It is 15-20 minutes drive outside of metro Atlanta. On a normal day you might see some minorities in the store and they are welcome.

    Now probably 50% of the traffic is minority and it's not mixed minorities. it's clearly downtown Atlanta or similar.

    I understand the families or the dad you see who's buying some protection because the police are not responding in their zone. Totally understand their need / desire, I would do the same, and I hope they as gun owners become supportive of our rights.

    But for every understandable situation like that there are groups of 5-10 males 18 to 25 wearing the t-shirts you would expect them to. Mostly BLM or similar.

    I'm not thinking anyone should be discouraged. But I'm more scratching my head what's driving this change, is it an organized push to arm individuals for protest, or what?

    These are the same people who is cleaning out the ammunition. I've watched them in groups buy multiple boxes of $50 Hornady critical defense 9 mm from a pallet. Probably because it was the only thing available in boxes of 50.

    This is not fuds buying ammunition to flip at gun shows. This is not long time shooters who should have had stocks and are worried about the presidential election. This is a sea change, entirely new demographic who is angry.

    I see them at the public shooting ranges in large numbers. I normally try very hard when I see a new shooter of any type to be friendly and help if needed at ranges. This new demographic does not want any of that, some look at you distrustful and sometimes won't even speak to you. (Then again some are nice enough)

    For pistols a lot of times I shoot at governors gun club (original smaller location) which is very close to me, clean and well-run. They have 20 lanes. At any given time you would normally see 90% Caucasian shooters. Mostly experienced. For the last month, it's now only 25 to 30% Caucasian. With the majority clearly being first-time shooters. I do see some females of color buying self defense firearms and getting a lesson from the store. Entirely understand and respect that. Then I also see young males with an uncased AR and pockets full of magazines, droopy pants and all. (when your belt line is below your butt and pockets are full of loaded magazines how do you keep the whole mess from falling down? I have a hard time keeping a holstered pistol up!) Sat across from one for 1 for an hour wait recently. Didn't see any hugely unsafe handling, but clearly had the NFAC vibe. Uncased AR made me nervous.

    So I'm kind of scratching my head. This is not a color thing, metro atl counties are 25-46% african american... I know African American hunters and sport shooters. And some they just want to defend their families.

    Instead, it's the nature of the new shooters, appears to be anger thing. Urban Atlanta people in black slogan t-shirts driving a county away to shop and another county further to shoot. Is this an organized effort? Grass roots word of mouth? I do not believe it's random.
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