NY Attorney General Suing the NRA, four members in particular

[jsbhike]

We will turn our backs on whoever who disagree with and virtue signal our way into the Gulag. If the NRA was not a threat, the Marxists would not mention their name. When you lie down with the dogs, you may get fleas, but it beats dying in a sheep stampede.

Andy

Or the marxists/fascists/assorted other statists could want their opponents pumping money in to a group that has a history of pimping anti gun legislation, anti gun political candidates, and blowing funding on useless to deleterious employees and sub contractors.

[rocsteady]

Evidently the NRA boosts Republican voting substantially late in the election cycle and is very, very good at it. Dems knee exactly what they were doing forcing NRA to keep money in reserve to fight this bullshit attack.

[Artos]

Harris on Fox said she looked into NRA membership 60 days ago & 1/3 of membership identifies as Democrat...let that sink in on how stupid the move is.

[Grand58742]

Harris on Fox said she looked into NRA membership 60 days ago & 1/3 of membership identifies as Democrat...let that sink in on how stupid the move is.

How many sitting Democrats has the NRA endorsed in recent years? (other than that idiot from Nevada)

[SteyrAUG]

Follow the money. The NRA says they want to spend hundreds of millions in ad money for the upcoming election. Gee.. I WONDER if the NY ag is going to try and freeze any $$$ assets... Let's just tie up their money in court. By the time this gets litigated, the election will be over. Meanwhile, Soros and Doomberg are free to spend as much as they want.

Basically that is exactly what is going on. For everyone complaining about the doom and gloom phone calls and solicitations, I have been an NRA Life Member since 2008 and they have never contacted me.

I asked to be put on the "do not solicit" list and told them any donations would only be made to the NRA-ILA. I still get my candidate rating around election time and that doesn't bother me, the only time it did was when they had Harry Reid with an A+ rating.

If we are going to do something about Wayne, it needs to be done internally not out of our control by outsiders and those hostile to the second amendment. If we want the NRA to be more accountable, same thing.

We need to control the NRA and that is done by controlling what money they get and how it is spent. If you buy a $35 membership you won't have as much say as a Life Member. If you don't tell them to put you on a DO NOT SOLICIT list, you can't bitch that they call you.

The NRA is a money machine, they use most of that membership money to try and generate more memberships and member donations. But they only get that if you blindly donate money without stipulation, donations to the ILA can only be used for legislative purposes. But at the same time, it's a giant money machine that our enemies are afraid of, and they is why they are trying to destroy it and the timing is very good.

Right now there is a lot of people who want to get rid of Wayne and there are a lot of members who think their money isn't being wisely spent. But this is a serious case of throwing out the baby with the bath water. Anyone who thinks the GOA can be the replacement NRA right now is delusional.

I love the GOA. I love that they are proactive. I love it every time they send me a legislative alert. But right now the GOA is about 2 million members, the NRA is about 5 million members but more importantly it is effectively in place. The NRA has long standing and reliable relationships with the right people.

Most of our enemies don't even know who the GOA is. And of course, if you can afford to support both groups, do that. Tell the NRA that you are a GOA member because the NRA isn't as effective as you'd like them to be so the GOA is getting money that would have otherwise gone to the NRA.

[MountainRaven]

Maybe if the NRA had cleaned house when this stuff became public knowledge a year ago, they wouldn't have to be fighting for their very existence.

[Artos]

How many sitting Democrats has the NRA endorsed in recent years? (other than that idiot from Nevada)

What is your point vs NRA membership that identifies as Dems?? NRA ranks politicians based on their voting record regarding the 2nd amendment A - F & is color blind regarding party lines...my point is 33% of membership was just informed they are to be disbanded & their gun rights mean nothing & if that doesn't carry some weight along with more 1st time gun buyers in our history?? If you are a voting member your state will have rankings & yes, there are a few dems with positive rankings in texas.

Again, I don't think this move by the AG is going to have the weight some think with the whole defund the police, massive rise in gun violence in cities where gun control is rampant & proven not to work.

[Honu]

NRA is political org all most politicians are scum liars who say one thing do another does not matter what side or what they claim most as in not all get into it for money and power and control NRA is no different from what I have seen they just happen to be for the 2nd which really is a HUGE part of America just because they are for what half of America is for does not make them somehow great people etc...

[SteyrAUG]

Maybe if the NRA had cleaned house when this stuff became public knowledge a year ago, they wouldn't have to be fighting for their very existence.

Yet here we are, but here we are maybe with enough leverage to finally make some changes. Because that is better than the AGNY making changes.

If we are lucky we "might" be able to get them to do a little house cleaning without becoming new owners of the house. It would be wonderfully ironic if key leadership was removed and we were able to vote in place more effective second amendment defenders.

[yoni]

This was done so that the leadership of the NRA would spend time and funds to fight this rather than on ads for the election.

Assuming that Trumps wins reelection and the Republicans by some miracle take the House and Senate, the NRA has to be the New NRA.

The new NRA must have leadership that reflects real gun owners not the country club gun owners and it must set a clear agenda.

1. National Right to Carry
2. Repeal of regulations on suppressors and SBR/S
3. Repeal of the ban on new full autos for the civilian marketplace.

I kept full autos regulated for a reason, as it is a psychological gap in the public's knowledge on guns and would be damn near impossible to win at this time. But if we could open up the market again so that a full auto MP5 would cost $2700 rather than what the current market price is great.

Then once that is achieved then work on roll backs of laws at the State level .

But right away, they need to hire a firm like mine that does social engineering and psyops, they don't need a PR firm. They need a firm of former intelligence experts that have formed public opinion. An example of what is possible, we were hired by a sitting President of a country that was on his last term according to the countries Constitution, to change the Constitution so that he could run again. We got the people to approve the Constitutional changes by a wide margin, but on the day of the change our clients was running at less than 10% favorable in the polls. We had about 18 months until the election. Our client won in a landslide.

We would do what Facebook and Twitter etc are doing to people, only for good. My biggest frustration, is that I contacted someone high up in the RNC, that has known of me for years. Not interested, because he like most Republicans are too stupid to understand the tech world we live in. Fifty years from now if we are lucky everyone will understand how truly manipulative and evil the tech giants are. They are big tobacco of the 1950's.

If the NRA were to hire us today, we would start a campaign that would have the liberal marxist bitch in NY, crying that she opened Pandora's box.