Trijicon sues Holosun (patent infringement)

**JoshNC** · 08-10-20, 17:52

Originally Posted by Jakedasnake

Like I said. The Holosun is a superior product. Just like when you, or others go get a TV, Car, or even a blender, you GET THE SUPERIOR PRODUCT! Look around your own home, and tell me what’s inside that’s NOT made in CHI-NA? Even the Phone/PC your ranting on about this is made in, you guessed it, CHI-NA!

Talk to the Presidents of the past whom created this problem, if you feel like digging them up

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I would buy all US made products if I could. That a huge number of things we buy are Chinese made does not justify purposefully buying Chinese made products. It also does not address IP infringement, assuming Trijicon has valid infringement of its IP.

**Esq.** · 08-10-20, 18:00

Originally Posted by JoshNC

I would buy all US made products if I could. That a huge number of things we buy are Chinese made does not justify purposefully buying Chinese made products. It also does not address IP infringement, assuming Trijicon has valid infringement of its IP.

To me, assuming Trijicon proves their case, Holosun etc...should be held responsible.....Just as S&W was when sued by Glock over the Smegma. It happens....

**Adrenaline_6** · 08-10-20, 18:14

Originally Posted by MountainRaven

Tacomas are made in Mexico. They were made in the US.

The east is red, the sun is rising.
From China, appears Mao Zedong.
He strives for the people's happiness,
Hurrah, he is the people's great savior!

Seriously? Your countering another guys argument about Rampages vs Tacomas are that even though a Japanese owned company designed it and engineered it in Japan, but is made in Mexico and the US that is why they are so good? Come on...that is absolutely weak sauce.

**JoshNC** · 08-10-20, 19:56

Originally Posted by Esq.

To me, assuming Trijicon proves their case, Holosun etc...should be held responsible.....Just as S&W was when sued by Glock over the Smegma. It happens....

Oh, the Smegma. What a not at all veiled turd of a pistol.

On a side note, the number of people justifying IP theft from a US company by a foreign communist company, with the justification being that Trijicon is too expensive and lacks innovation - it’s appalling. It reeks of the same classist socialist nonsense preached by Antifa and others. Theft is apparently okay, so long as it’s theft from a greedy [insert wealthy individual, corporation, etc] boogeyman. W T actual F?

**Adrenaline_6** · 08-10-20, 20:43

Originally Posted by JoshNC

Oh, the Smegma. What a not at all veiled turd of a pistol.

On a side note, the number of people justifying IP theft from a US company by a foreign communist company, with the justification being that Trijicon is too expensive and lacks innovation - it’s appalling. It reeks of the same classist socialist nonsense preached by Antifa and others. Theft is apparently okay, so long as it’s theft from a greedy [insert wealthy individual, corporation, etc] boogeyman. W T actual F?

Nobody said that. Not one. The case is weak at best. Actually look at it. What is equally appalling is that so many are perfectly willing to take a foot long dildo in the bunghole as long as there is a US sticker on it.

**JoshNC** · 08-10-20, 20:50

Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6

Nobody said that. Not one. The case is weak at best. Actually look at it. What is equally appalling is that so many are perfectly willing to take a foot long dildo in the bunghole as long as there is a US sticker on it.

The merit of the case will be judged by the court. And yes, several have justified Chinese optics because of exactly what I previously posted. Animosity and a desire to pay less are stronger than principles.

**Xhado** · 08-10-20, 21:00

Originally Posted by WickedWillis

This lawsuit is over the footprint, and Trijicon may win that. But they also realize they are not innovating, or evolving their flagship optics and the industry is working them right now.

I haven't seen anything in the lawsuit that's referencing the footprint.

**Xhado** · 08-10-20, 21:11

Originally Posted by JoshNC

The merit of the case will be judged by the court. And yes, several have justified Chinese optics because of exactly what I previously posted. Animosity and a desire to pay less are stronger than principles.

I've asked this earlier in this thread with no response. What exactly did Holosun steal from Trijicon? Looking at the legal documents it's only referencing the basic basic design of a MRDS.

If the courts side with Trijicon, It doesn't morally justify their actions. Just because they patented the basic MRDS design doesn't mean they invented it.

**philcam** · 08-10-20, 23:07

Originally Posted by Xhado

For context I currently own 1 Type 1 RMR, 2 Type 2 RMRs, 3 SROs and 1 Holosun 407. I have previously owned 5 other MRDS.

I would 100% take shake awake over Trijicons shitty forced auto adjust after 8 hours which doesn't play nice with WMLs.

Holosun batteries last just as long as RMRs (2032 variants).

It is a pain in the ass to rezero multiple weapons every year, especially rifes as I can't just swing by the local indoor range. When you're maintaining multiple weapons it just makes things simpler.

I think you need to pay attention to online deals.

I buy my Type 2 RMRs at ~$400, SROs at ~450.

I bought my 407 at $170. I routinely have found them on sale (pre-covid) for $180 for friends and students. If you want the dual reticle of the 507, I've seen them for as low as $220.

Where are you seeing SROs for $450?

I’d much rather buy made in USA Trijicon vs Chinese. I just got an RMR today, didn’t even consider Holosun.