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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzinSATX View Post
    (AZ desert vs. Gulf Coast).
    This. For us in AZ, long term is a safe or a shelf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    This. For us in AZ, long term is a safe or a shelf.
    Or out in the middle of the desert. We’ve got a crap ton of airplanes just sitting out in the weather...they last for many years until they are stripped for parts or sold to some other country...


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_boneyard


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    I am not thayt lucky, northeast weather will ruin stuff quick. even under cover in a shed, stuff will rust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedfs View Post
    Did some searching here and did find some interesting options. The specific thread I was interested in was Long Term Storage for BCGs, which is what my interest was.
    Last reply to that thread was 10 years ago. Just wondering if there are any better options for long term storage of gun parts 10 years later.

    Vacuum sealers are fairly inexpensive now and there might be better options for the oil or grease today as well. My experience with oils and plastic bags has not been positive over the years.
    It works for a while but must be checked on because the plastic will fail at some point, letting the oil or grease leak out. Wondering if using the plastic bag with oil/grease then vacuum sealing
    the whole thing in a vacuum seal bag might work better ? PVC pipe is always an option but isn't very discreet or foldable to tuck away somewhere.
    You could get some coated (np3, nano, etc) or nitrided BCG.

    "Foodsaver" type bags are not ideal in terms of air / moisture resistance and don't even do a great job keeping grease from drying out.

    I would get some cheap mylar bags. they come in different thicknesses. Thicker is better, you don't want to be able to see through them.

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    Proven in one of the most humid environments in the lower 48 (PNW):
    * Storage less than one year, even in a damp unheated garage: CorrosionX. Works on tools, firearms, etc, if just sitting there. If used and you're touching them, will need treatment more often.
    * Storage greater than one year, with direct moisture exposure: WD 40 Specialist Long-term corrosion inhibitor. I spray this on stuff like padlocks that are on an external building, metal gate mechanisms, etc. Puts a thin clear film on the metal but less gunky than stuff like cosmoline or Rigg grease, which render the stored item unusable until cleaned off. I also spray this on the exposed metal of tools that get used outdoors during rainy season, shovels, machetes, anything with a blade that can rust. It seems to hold longer than CorrosionX. But unlike CorrosionX, this stuff is highly toxic both to skin and to inhale, so spray it outdoors, and avoid skin contact for sure.

    ETA, here's 2 recent sets of tests that showed WD40 LTCI is the best at blocking long-term rust:
    * https://ronkulas.proboards.com/threa...1&scrollTo=711
    * https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/...#post-20004204

    I think coating with WD LTCI for something you still want to potentially access at a moment's notice makes sense. For something you plan to put away long-term and leave it there, like a cache, I think you still can't beat old fashioned cosmoline or Rigg and a container.
    Last edited by maximus83; 09-23-20 at 17:39.

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    VCI vapor bags. A company called ZCORR made them. I believe they went out of business. The bags are AWESOME!

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    The same here!
    I have a couple of little ones that are just getting to the age that they are starting to get into things around the house. Before my wife and I had children I always just kept a handgun in the top drawer of my nightstand, but with the little ones around I think I am going to invest in some type of small safe to keep a full-sized handgun in the bedroom. Consider getting this one https://www.bestlockguide.com/amazon...s-safe-review/ . Seems to be a decent option
    Last edited by RonaldOO; 01-15-22 at 15:37.

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    Might help to define ‘long term’ and what conditions.

    I keep my spare bolts lightly oiled in zip loc bags, in an ammo can with those plastic dividers. It gets opened frequently so when the bag leaks, I’ll replace it. Any plastic bag is gonna fail eventually.

    I suppose any oil is gonna run off given enough time so if re-application after a few years isn’t an option, then submersion.


    But if I was gonna bury a bunch of steel parts in the back yard for 20 years, I’d get a good condition ammo can and fill it to the brim with motor oil, til it overflows so no air gets in.

    I’ve spent too many years scraping cosmoline off firearms to ever think of putting it back on something.

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    I’m curious about the PVC pipe idea. But maybe use threaded ends and fill it with oil or preservative of some sort so there’s little to no air inside. Could probably just use a 1” pipe.

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    Any airtight container gassed with Argon will eliminate rust. No oxygen, no oxidation. Argon is heavier than air and won't leak out.

    So one could wrap parts, put them in an ammo can or gasketed 5 gal bucket, gas it, and seal it up. Of couse, I TIG weld so I always have a bottle or two of Argon around.
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