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I'm not sure how you come out against this Executive Order?
He stepped in and used his "Phone and a Pen" like Obama threatened and ended a stalemate that was hurting Americans and our economy.
This was brilliant, now the Democrats have to look like Ebeneezer Scrooge to oppose it.
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I saw last night about the tax relief! FINALLY something for the folks who are actually still working!!!!
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This is a horrible abuse of power and I strongly object to the Executive Branch subverting the Constitution.
Why this is wrong is it sets a precedent for the next guy to abuse it more. Can’t get money for UBI? Executive Order. Can’t get National healthcare? Executive order. Ad astra.
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You act like that precedent hasn’t already been set. Anyone know how many EOs Obama signed by this point in comparison to Trump?Originally Posted by Business_Casual
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Sic semper tyrannis.
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177 Trump, 147 Obama.
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The precedent was set with DACA and reinforced by John Roberts.
As I said I don't like it either, but how do you compromise with Democrats at this stage?
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Let the Dems go to court and try to get money taken out of peoples pockets, how does that optics look?
This is the reality of where we are. I’m tired of talking about fiscal responsibility when we are all going to get saddled with the burden of the debt. We might as well be to the trough too.
Bread and circus’s...
The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.
It's that simple.
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Just slip slidin' down that slope...
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Exactly right. Someone finally has the guts to use Dem tactics against them. Let the Dems be the ones to have to oppose further legislation forgiving the tax break.
Some folks can’t see that far ahead and will be confused for now, but this is likely the plan
He can continue to do this with one issue at a time, if he wants to...
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Last edited by Mercs; 08-09-20 at 10:59.
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I don't think it's done being adjudicated legally. Watch what happens with the inevitable lawsuits.
Having said that, if Trump did this knowing (on advice from his legal-eagles) that it would cow-flop in the courts it is still brilliant on his part. In the end it won't be upheld so no real violation of Executive powers, but "Hey, he was trying to help the average working guy". Optics, optics, optics for the simpleton voters out there; Trump needs as many of them to vote for him than he ever did.
Last edited by ABNAK; 08-09-20 at 10:55.
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