I want a 9mm 1911. I thought I wanted an STI until...

**jpmuscle** · 09-24-20, 22:21

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**R0CKETMAN** · 10-02-20, 06:03

Originally Posted by Sam

Is that your covid mask?

yep..& sadly I sold the 2011 before I could take any of your money.

What a great shooter it was.....

**KiloSierra** · 10-03-20, 18:34

Originally Posted by Eurodriver

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Second, Chambers lists a 36-48 MONTH lead time for builds. Even if this is for a truly custom gun that I won’t be buying, any company that lists 4 years for build times is a huge red flag. That’s insane and completely laughable. Are these guys searching the earth for the iron to pull directly out of the ground with which to forge my frame? Nah. The Empire State Building was made in less than two years. Hell we were only at war with Nazi Germany for 42 months!

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Some people put quality and craftsmanship above all else and don’t want to risk that slipping just to put more guns out the door.

**Pappabear** · 10-03-20, 19:36

Yes but those lead times are insane. Do you have to put $$$ down to get on a list?
If not, no big deal, if so it's BS. BUT if people are willing to do it then let them do it. I would never.

I bought custom handgun grips that put you on his list then called me 8 months later. Sent him a check ....

PB

**Eurodriver** · 10-04-20, 09:17

Originally Posted by KiloSierra

Some people put quality and craftsmanship above all else and don’t want to risk that slipping just to put more guns out the door.

48 months though?

48 months ago everyone knew Clinton was gonna win the White House. Think about how long ago that was.

Don’t even bother taking more orders at that point. That’s an insane lead time. Joe is embarrassing himself just having that on his website.

**KiloSierra** · 10-04-20, 14:46

Not unusual in the world of true customs regardless on what it is. Where there’s a demand for extreme quality in craftsmanship and individualness there’s a long wait if the maker’s well known. My father in law’s best friend is a custom knife maker who has 6-7 years backlog of orders. That’s a lot of knives!

**Eurodriver** · 10-05-20, 11:52

Originally Posted by KiloSierra

Not unusual in the world of true customs regardless on what it is. Where there’s a demand for extreme quality in craftsmanship and individualness there’s a long wait if the maker’s well known. My father in law’s best friend is a custom knife maker who has 6-7 years backlog of orders. That’s a lot of knives!

Recently I've learned not to knock things I don't understand, because as I've grown up I've learned that sometimes I end up doing exactly that. This thread, and my history on M4C is a great example. Looking through my post history who would've guessed I'd have a 1911? LOL. Four years ago if you told me I would have a SA Custom Shop 1911 and it'd be in my nightstand I would've laughed your face off and called you a Boomer.

Maybe 3-5 years from now I'll be giving Joe a call...and some money?

**R0CKETMAN** · 10-06-20, 04:17

Originally Posted by Pappabear

Yes but those lead times are insane. Do you have to put $$$ down to get on a list?
If not, no big deal, if so it's BS. BUT if people are willing to do it then let them do it. I would never.

I bought custom handgun grips that put you on his list then called me 8 months later. Sent him a check ....

PB

Originally Posted by Eurodriver

48 months though?

48 months ago everyone knew Clinton was gonna win the White House. Think about how long ago that was.

Don’t even bother taking more orders at that point. That’s an insane lead time. Joe is embarrassing himself just having that on his website.

48 months is nothing. Other top tier smiffs can be years longer or books are closed indefinitely.

My full house from Chuck