CZ should make some little guns

**Ron3** · 08-10-20, 23:35

How about a .380? Or double-stack in .32 acp or .25 acp?

I think their smallest gun is the RAMI 9mm. Reminds me of the days when the smallest, lightest gun Ruger made was the heavy-duty all-stainless SP-101.

**jbjh** · 08-11-20, 03:02

They made the CZ83 in .380 and .32 til 2012

https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-83-9-m...-cal-380-auto/

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**dwhitehorne** · 08-11-20, 10:39

I wonder what the points system for importing has to do with it. I read about it in this article on the CZ P10M that is apparently not coming to the US.

https://www.recoilweb.com/new-cz-p-1...it-158898.html

**jbjh** · 08-11-20, 19:51

Originally Posted by dwhitehorne

I wonder what the points system for importing has to do with it. I read about it in this article on the CZ P10M that is apparently not coming to the US.

https://www.recoilweb.com/new-cz-p-1...it-158898.html

For the CZ83, it probably had more to do with a lack of interest in a fixed-barrel/blowback, double stack .380.

The P10M almost looks like a design experiment. I’m not sure how I feel about the lack of a slide stop, but it’s very interesting.

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**popo22** · 08-11-20, 20:05

CZ put out some fine "small" pistols looong before it was fashionable. The CZ m82, 83, etc. are fine pistols with double stack mag's and pretty decent triggers, imho. They have a better cartridge (imho) than the .380 (9mm mak) and are really ergonomic in the grip. Sure they are a bit heavy but a lot of people (myself included) still love the feel of shooting they and they are pretty darn accurate.

**Ron3** · 08-13-20, 10:51

I was firing a CZ82 this week. That's what brought it up.

I would have guessed the CZ83 was last made in the mid-late 1980's, not 2012!

I wish they had a decocker and better grip panels. After 50 rds of 9x18 something was pinching my hand and the grip interferes with reaching the mag release.

Otherwise it's a good, accurate gun. Oh, a bit heavy. I think it was about 34 oz loaded.

The trigger was a nice surprise. Smooth DA and not very heavy.

I prefer the Beretta Cheetah for a few reasons but I respect the CZ82/83.

I'll bet it's best in .32 acp / 7.65 mm like all blowbacks. (15+1, too)

**Sikiguya** · 08-17-20, 14:02

In a market full of single stack small 9mm...I.e Shield, Glock 43, APX carry, PPS, Honor Guard, PM9....it wouldn’t make sense.

However, if they go after the P365 and Hellcat...maybe

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**Ron3** · 08-18-20, 14:45

Originally Posted by Sikiguya

In a market full of single stack small 9mm...I.e Shield, Glock 43, APX carry, PPS, Honor Guard, PM9....it wouldn’t make sense.

However, if they go after the P365 and Hellcat...maybe

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Nobody has made the perfect pocket .380, .32, .25, or .22 yet. Especially a double stack.