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    Here is the best part of the deal:

    The USA did not bribe both parties with 3 billion dollars like Jimmy Carter did.
    The USA did not commit to the defense of anyone.
    The USA is not involved.

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    Iraq is an enemy of Israel.

    Quality of life for Iraqis now verse during Sadaam's time. I think it is probably like USSR during Stalin and after. If the dictator and his secret police is not after you, life some what sucks but it is stable.

    Iraq has no role in the region, the best role Iraq had was to be a buffer against Iran. Which George Bush destroyed, which is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. The President goes to war against a country that had done nothing against the USA. Some say for the oil, well then why isnt the oil going to the USA at lower than market rate to pay back the USA.

    It was evil to go to war in Iraq!

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    sigh...would be fun to have a magic ball & see what the region would be like today if it had never happened. I'm sure there is a money trail amigo that would spell out it out but it's just onward & forward at this point. Was hoping for news the area was much improved for the masses but suspected as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    Iraq is an enemy of Israel.

    Quality of life for Iraqis now verse during Sadaam's time. I think it is probably like USSR during Stalin and after. If the dictator and his secret police is not after you, life some what sucks but it is stable.

    Iraq has no role in the region, the best role Iraq had was to be a buffer against Iran. Which George Bush destroyed, which is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. The President goes to war against a country that had done nothing against the USA. Some say for the oil, well then why isnt the oil going to the USA at lower than market rate to pay back the USA.

    It was evil to go to war in Iraq!
    Finishing Daddy's business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtSeavers View Post
    Finishing Daddy's business.
    So American military members were killed and maimed, in Iraq to finish daddy's business?

    I am not doubting the truth of this.

    What bothers me is Bush is walking around free, making money, living life.

    The most immoral thing a President can do is take his nation to war for less than a valid reason. I support a Constitutional change, " A President and/or Congress that takes the nation to violence against foreign nationals/ nation states, and it is later know they lied about Casus Beili, the lives of all government officials voting for such violence and the lives of their families will be eliminated in a public manor"

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    And now Sudan. This Trump guy is out of control. I wonder how many more Nobel Peace Prizes he'll be nominated for and not receive.

    Gettin' down innagrass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtSeavers View Post
    Finishing Daddy's business.
    Actually it was Bush 41 who fuxored our alliance with Iraq in the first place. Bush 43 simply doubled down.

    Say what you want about Saddam, yes he was a brutal dictator who tortured and killed anyone who stood in his way, but wasn't that also true of the Shah? And at the end of the day, Saddam presided over a secular, mostly moderate Arab republic that allowed women in government even.

    Not saying he was our best buddy, but if you are looking for a stable arab state with kinda democracy, Iraq was it and and close as that region gets. But we F'ed it all up because we wouldn't take a position on the Iraq / Kuwait oil dispute and Saddam believed we had given him a green light to handle his business in Kuwait.

    Really all Saddam expected of us was to buy his oil, even though it cost more than Kuwaiti oil because the Iran / Iraq war had devastated his finances and he strongly believed he fought that war on our behalf as well as his own and was just looking for a little reinvestment in the alliance.

    When we told him thanks, have a nice day, he felt butthurt X 27 to the 8th.

    When he believed we gave him a wink and a nod to go settle accounts with Kuwait he thought we threw him a bone, when we gave him a deadline to vacate Kuwait he then believed we set him up and betrayed him.

    It could have all easily been avoided. If April Glaspie could have remembered who she was talking to and chose better words (ie: been qualified for her job) Saddam would still be running things today and he Iraq would be a base of operations in the current war on terror. Iran would still be hard checked and absolutely NO nuclear program of any kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titsonritz View Post
    And now Sudan. This Trump guy is out of control. I wonder how many more Nobel Peace Prizes he'll be nominated for and not receive.

    Any other time in our history and this would be front page news with accolades for the President. But the communist infiltration of our MSM, education systems and political system is complete, so it isn't.
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    So how much of this is due to the United States oil production?

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