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**Eurodriver** · 09-21-20, 19:35

Wow interesting.

I wasn’t asking why 9mm as much as why a 9mm 1911.

For example a 2011 holds twice as many rounds and shoots just as well.

But I really had no idea 45 beats you up that much. That’s crazy.

**Sam** · 09-21-20, 19:49

Originally Posted by Eurodriver

Wow interesting.

I wasn’t asking why 9mm as much as why a 9mm 1911.

For example a 2011 holds twice as many rounds and shoots just as well.

But I really had no idea 45 beats you up that much. That’s crazy.

Sir,

A .45 doesn't beat you up that much in a year, or 5 years, but over 20 years in my experience, and those other gentlemen (Leatham and Hackathorn) have shot .45 for twice as long and put away millions of rounds. I think Mr. Yam is younger than those other two but I'm sure he's fired a few rounds.

As for 9mm 1911 (as in single stack) vs. the 2011 or Staccato style - Yes, the 2011 carry a bunch more rounds, but their magazines cost 3 to 4 times more than a Wilson 47D or ETM, more finicky (got to keep the squeakly clean or they'll choke). Also the double stack 2011 have much fatter grip than the single stack 1911s. For us mortals with girly hands, it's not comfortable and not as concealable as the slimmer 1911.

What I would love handle and try is the Dan Wesson DWX but due to the chicom plague and the race riots, we may never get to see them for another year or two.

When I want to shoot 9mm metal guns that carry lots of bb, I go to my Beretta 92X Centurion or the LTT Elite. Soft recoils, affordable, even the used LTT Elite that I bought is 1/4 the cost of a new Staccato.

**MountainRaven** · 09-21-20, 21:13

Staccato 17-round magazines from their website are $70 a pop.

Wilson 47 magazines are $33 a pop on Wilson's website. ETMs are $40-50 and ETM-Vs are $55. (These are prices for 45 Auto magazines, not 9mm.)

Certainly more expensive, but not exactly 3-4x the price.

**MadAngler1** · 09-21-20, 21:27

Reading these posts makes me wish I would have never sold my S&W Pro Series 9 mm 1911. Had an external extractor, 100% reliable. I sold it because I felt I should spend the trigger time with my glocks. I also sold it because I wound up never using it for IDPA or steel matches.

**pag23** · 09-22-20, 06:30

Originally Posted by MountainRaven

Staccato 17-round magazines from their website are $70 a pop.

Wilson 47 magazines are $33 a pop on Wilson's website. ETMs are $40-50 and ETM-Vs are $55. (These are prices for 45 Auto magazines, not 9mm.)

Certainly more expensive, but not exactly 3-4x the price.

Staccato mags are cheaper from Dawson Precision....

**jpmuscle** · 09-22-20, 06:59

Originally Posted by Eurodriver

9mm 1911?

Why

Simmer down pork chop

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**Sam** · 09-22-20, 07:03

Originally Posted by MountainRaven

Staccato 17-round magazines from their website are $70 a pop.

Wilson 47 magazines are $33 a pop on Wilson's website. ETMs are $40-50 and ETM-Vs are $55. (These are prices for 45 Auto magazines, not 9mm.)

Certainly more expensive, but not exactly 3-4x the price.

Gotcha. I heard somewhere that the Staccato mags are in the $120 range. And I usually pay $30 or less for the 47D

I'm frugal.

**jpmuscle** · 09-22-20, 07:17

Originally Posted by Sam

Gotcha. I heard somewhere that the Staccato mags are in the $120 range. And I usually pay $30 or less for the 47D

I'm frugal.

MBX mags are that much. But also the best evidently.

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**MountainRaven** · 09-22-20, 09:18

Originally Posted by pag23

Staccato mags are cheaper from Dawson Precision....

I was comparing prices direct from the manufacturers.

Originally Posted by Sam

Gotcha. I heard somewhere that the Staccato mags are in the $120 range. And I usually pay $30 or less for the 47D

I'm frugal.

Staccato magazines certainly were $100+ five years ago or so, but when they decided to start going after the LE market the magazine prices dropped significantly.