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    Decent m1 carbine defense loads out there

    Thanks to a recent change in the Austrian Firearms law I can finally get some old semi Auto guns. I have been a fan of the m1 carbine for quite some time and now I can finally get one.


    Going to use it mainly for target fun Shooting, but I am still interested in it's possible applications as self defense carbine. At least until I get a 223 semi Auto rifle in the next 2 to 3 years.


    I am quite sure that the 30carbine m1 ball rounds would to the Job despite some stories in in the Internet that Reports of many stopping power failures during the Korean War.

    Anyway ball is not the best choice for a sd Scenario due to the Risk of overpenetration. I have read that there are some jsp rounds of the 30 carbine out there.

    Is any jsp round from every manfacturer equally good, or would it be wise to buy a certain brand.


    would be pleased hearing some opinions.


    Greetings from Austria

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    The Remington 110gr JSP is among the best.
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    The Korean war stories are just that, stories.

    Make sure you get good mags. PPU and S&B make soft points. Not sure how good those perform. Hornady makes their critical defense in 110gr 30 carbine

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    I picked up a bunch of Federal Power-Shock 110gr Soft Point intended for the Israeli police. It’s their standard round, in the regular Federal box, but each box has a sticker with the Israeli police star and a bunch of Hebrew writing on it. The case it came in was marked the same way. If they are using it, I think it should be good enough for SD.

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    Thanks a lot for the Information. The ammo choices are vaster than I have expected. Didn't know that are even some "specialised" sd loads like golddot and critical defense are available in that caliber.

    I am going to check out what is available. So I far I have only seen S&B FMJ rounds. But I will Keep my eyes open for the remington and the Federal SP rounds. The Gold dot offering would also be neat, but the availabilty for the Gold dots rounds are not the best. Even in way more common calibers like the 9mm luger. So i doubt I am going to find them easily for an for European Terms rather exoctic caliber.

    Federal and Remington ammo on the other Hand is quite easy to find more an US ammo maker. I also liked the Quality of the remington and federal rounds. These ammo makers were my first choice at the time I used the own an Howa typ 1500 in 308 Winchester. Unfortately I had to sell it many years ago.

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    CorBon made/makes a 100 Grain DPX load for the carbine....That or the Gold Dot are pretty hard to beat.
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    .30 carbine ball is legitimately a poor performer, though this was true of most military loadings of its day. I do not recommend it.

    The Gold Dot loading was probably the best on the market, but is sadly continued. Remington 110 gr JSP and 110 gr DPX both work well. S&B JSP appears to be an excellent expander but its performance has not been validated in 10% organic gel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LimeSpoon View Post
    .30 carbine ball is legitimately a poor performer, though this was true of most military loadings of its day. I do not recommend it.

    The Gold Dot loading was probably the best on the market, but is sadly continued. Remington 110 gr JSP and 110 gr DPX both work well. S&B JSP appears to be an excellent expander but its performance has not been validated in 10% organic gel.
    In reference to what the op is talking about its not.

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    I know this runs against the grain, but if I were using an M-1 carbine form home defense I would go with FMJ for reliability. I have not found softpoints or hollowpoints to be reliable in several M-1 carbines that I have tested them in.

    I went through a few magazines in several M-1 Carbines, none would reliably feed the Remington 110 grain softpoint. I would invariably get to the point where I put 30-45 rounds through a magazine, and the gun would invariably fail to feed. Privi Partisan softpoints failed to feed within a few rounds. I did not have any better luck with hollowpoints.

    It has these problems because the exposed lead manages to get caught on the feedramp and the top of the chamber. The gun was designed to function with Full metal jacketed military ammo.

    I have spoken to the guy at Fulton Armory who specializes in M1 carbines. According to him the gun will never be reliable with softpoints. It seems some other people and gunsmiths have had other experience. He also pointed out that the softpoints seem to shave off led at the top of the chamber. So even if the gun does initially feed reliably, this buildup will eventually result in failures to feed.

    Below are some pictures of different loads for the M1 Carbine ammo. The first round to the left shows a full metal jacket round. Next is a softpoint that failed to feed. Note the wedge or gouge in nose of the middle round. The soft lead tip has flattened out somewhat compared to softpoint on the right which is fresh from the box. I ejected a softpoint round that did feed and noticed similar markings on its tip to the one that failed to feed. That tells me something about the feeding.

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    Last edited by Ed L.; 09-11-20 at 01:37.

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