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    Quote Originally Posted by nitmr26 View Post
    Colt released the 6940 in 2009 and the 6940P in early 2012. Colt's 2012 catalog has a picture of a 6940 without the insert next to a 6940P with the insert. I purchased a Colt 6944 (6940 with 14.5" barrel) in November of 2012. It does not have the insert. I've seen pictures of another 6940 that was manufactured in 2012 and it does have the insert.

    Granted that's only a few data points, but it looks like the insert was added to the DI 6940 upper receivers at some point in 2012.
    Interesting. My friend who owns one worked with me at a gun store and range in 2012-2015. We bought AR's around the same time of mid 2012, I went for DD and he went for the Colt, interestingly enough because they wouldn't let us buy the Magpul 6920's because they flew off the shelves so he ended up with a 6940. He became an LEO, but we used to teach a class at the range of AR basics, which was just an intro to the AR, and his was often the one used as it had traditional carbine gas system and we could talk about how AR's function, and I don't for the life of me remember seeing that insert on his rifle.
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    Mitbewerber wie der langjšhriger Waffenlieferant der Bundeswehr, Heckler & Koch, kŲnnen demnach aber noch Einspruch erheben.

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    Haenel says that 90% of their weapon will be made in Germany. I would hazard a guess that the other 10% might be UAE-made.

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    On the 9th of October, the Bundeswehr announced that they were canceling the Haenel order. Further comment by the German government was that they canceled the order because they found the Haenel design infringed on Heckler & Koch patents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainRaven View Post
    On the 9th of October, the Bundeswehr announced that they were canceling the Haenel order. Further comment by the German government was that they canceled the order because they found the Haenel design infringed on Heckler & Koch patents.
    Backroom deals were made no doubt. I wouldn't be surprised to see the decision reversed and HK getting the contract instead for an "improved" G36, or the 416.
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    I donít see Germany buying everybody HK416A7s (despite it being the best AR Europe has to offer) so itíll be something retarded like the 433

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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainRaven View Post
    On the 9th of October, the Bundeswehr announced that they were canceling the Haenel order. Further comment by the German government was that they canceled the order because they found the Haenel design infringed on Heckler & Koch patents.
    I could not be a small arms supplier to Germany. I've never seen an industry that gets so f'ed with on a regular basis like it's all normal.

    I think of the time and money dropped on the G11 project with the West Germany military claiming it will be the across the board replacement for the G3, then the wall came down, West had to pay for infrastructure improvements in the East and a flood of PhD types came to the West who thought $8 an hour was amazing jack and bottomed out their economy.

    The German army then decided they didn't need the G11 and I think Fiat came damn close to owning it before it sold to RSA in England. Their laws are insane (even compared to ours) and their "everyone gets a fair and equal shot" approach to weapon adoption is well intentioned but wholly impractical. Haenel thought they had a date to the dance and then SUDDENLY, nope not happening.

    And I'm fairly certain Haenel had all of their eggs in this basket and now they are probably done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    I don’t see Germany buying everybody HK416A7s (despite it being the best AR Europe has to offer) so it’ll be something retarded like the 433

    I concur. But the 433 isn't a completely horrible rifle, it's just not a 416.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I could not be a small arms supplier to Germany. I've never seen an industry that gets so f'ed with on a regular basis like it's all normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainRaven View Post
    On the 9th of October, the Bundeswehr announced that they were canceling the Haenel order. Further comment by the German government was that they canceled the order because they found the Haenel design infringed on Heckler & Koch patents.
    You can't make this stuff up.

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