Bundeswehr picks AR as new service rifle

[Firefly]

https://www.mdr.de/thueringen/sued-t...swehr-100.html



G36 is dead. Long live the Haenel. I was right and also wrong. I knew the 433 was going nowhere (it’s trash) but I hoped they would have gone with the 14.5 416 (the best overall length of 416 IMO. Feel free to fite me irl about it)

I know nothing about Haenel but it’s essentially a cheaper off-brand piston AR. Money and politics were the issue here. Still at least it’s a real gun this time.

To think, in the 50s they aaaalllmost went AR-10. So it’s full circle now. G3s are nice but old.

[Slater]

Interesting. My money was on HK, because, well, they're HK.

[Firefly]

Interesting. My money was on HK, because, well, they're HK.

They’re also pricey and they walked the dog on the G36 lawsuit fiasco so they sorta snubbed them

[Slater]

The US market is around 25% of HK's sales nowadays (presumably both military and civilian sales), so maybe we'll command 1% more of their attention now

[Diamondback]

Anybody wanna place bets on how long before somebody here clones it? LOL

[Slater]

Heck, the Chinese are probably making parts now, just going off pictures

[Firefly]

Clone it?

You can buy it ( if you live in Europe)
https://www.jahipaun.ee/en/online-sh...le-cr223-5189/

Honestly I sorta want a Schmeisser AR. (It’s DI)



It’s 2020 and Germans are making ARs and Americans are making AK-74s.

The boys want the boys and the girls want the girls, it’s a mixed up, muddled up, far out world

[Dr. Bullseye]

This company in Suhl is in partnership with HK so two companies are involved. To me this is really not a pure AR but a semi-auto rifle in 308, ten round mag, with a piston.

https://www.frankonia.de/images/mult...sier-de-DE.pdf

[Dr. Bullseye]

This company in Suhl is in partnership with HK so two companies are involved. To me this is really not a pure AR but a semi-auto rifle in 308, ten round mag, with a piston.

https://www.frankonia.de/images/mult...sier-de-DE.pdf

[MountainRaven]

The article says the DPA (Deutsche Presse-Agentur - I guess the German equivalent of the AP) is reporting that Haenel won the contract, but the German Defense Ministry has not confirmed it - but that they expect to announce something soon.