Tulsa, OK, slain officer Bodycam. *NSFW* hard to watch.

[SteyrAUG]

LAPD still has ASPs and PR-24s.

Just no Maglites or SL20Xs.

Well that is cause maglites make that racist noise. Are any of them allowed to take the PR-24s out in the street or do they have to stay in the parking lot to play with them.

[yoni]

This video is a sad commentary on the State of the USA.

For decades police have been forced to become more PC and less ass kickers.

My second FTO gave me advice that I will never forget. Start every normal contact like the civilian is your parents, if they change the equation, then be prepared to use reasonable force. Reasonable force can mean give them as ass whipping or shoot them, it depends on them not you.
I will repeat, a 14oz sap upside the jaw would have solved this in the blink of an eye.

[pag23]

Well that is cause maglites make that racist noise. Are any of them allowed to take the PR-24s out in the street or do they have to stay in the parking lot to play with them.

I am not a cop, but on the advice of my buddy's dad, who is a retired cop, is to have a 4 D cell Maglite handy..

[SteyrAUG]

I am not a cop, but on the advice of my buddy's dad, who is a retired cop, is to have a 4 D cell Maglite handy..

I remember we used to swap out krypton bulbs with halogens, I imagine today there is some kind of LED upgrade. That is my advice.

[AndyLate]

I remember we used to swap out krypton bulbs with halogens, I imagine today there is some kind of LED upgrade. That is my advice.

There are LED upgrades, about 280 lumens.

I keep a 3 cell in my truck for "emergencies", probably should find a longer one.

Andy

[tommyrott]

https://malkoffdevices.com/collectio...nd-accessories. I haven't ordered the maglite upgrade yet but I do have the 6p led upgrade in an old surefire that started life as a incandescent rated for 100 lumens great for looking around a vehicle or large room without a lot of glare

[Averageman]

I wonder if I could take a "D" Cell Mag Light and an Aluminium Baseball bat and.....
I can't keep things like that in my Car, I have issues with idiots and try to avoid them, but damn. When you're trying to change lanes and the idiot wont let you in because he is busy texting and suddenly a space opens and you are in it, well Mr "I'm Texting" suddenly loses his sh*t.
Happens everyday, so if I had something like that in the Truck, I'm more likely to use it.
A Firearm is final, so I have never had the thought, "I would like to shoot that MF'er"
A butt whipping however has by my observation is sometimes a real game changer when it comes to an attitude/compliance reset.

Given these two choices;
A) The death penalty / be shot dead.
or
B) he gets his nose broken with a flashlight and goes to jail.
I'm sure every Mom in America would choose "B" for her Son.

[jsbhike]

This video is a sad commentary on the State of the USA.

For decades police have been forced to become more PC and less ass kickers.

My second FTO gave me advice that I will never forget. Start every normal contact like the civilian is your parents, if they change the equation, then be prepared to use reasonable force. Reasonable force can mean give them as ass whipping or shoot them, it depends on them not you.
I will repeat, a 14oz sap upside the jaw would have solved this in the blink of an eye.

And so is this video. The sergeant here had no qualms with escalating the situation where there was no threat.

https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/n...27dc5665b.html

So the question(or questions) is how to get officers trained to know when to ramp it up and when not to? Or are both cases conditioned responses where the Valdosta sergeant acted because he knew there was no threat while the Oklahoma officers were hesitant because they knew he would fight? Allegedly, during the dude's initial arrest a few years back he threatened to kill Johnson.

https://apnews.com/9ad774361585d1e0b902fadb09a8fec2

[WillBrink]

I wonder if I could take a "D" Cell Mag Light and an Aluminium Baseball bat and.....
I can't keep things like that in my Car, I have issues with idiots and try to avoid them, but damn. When you're trying to change lanes and the idiot wont let you in because he is busy texting and suddenly a space opens and you are in it, well Mr "I'm Texting" suddenly loses his sh*t.
Happens everyday, so if I had something like that in the Truck, I'm more likely to use it.
A Firearm is final, so I have never had the thought, "I would like to shoot that MF'er"
A butt whipping however has by my observation is sometimes a real game changer when it comes to an attitude/compliance reset.

Given these two choices;
A) The death penalty / be shot dead.
or
B) he gets his nose broken with a flashlight and goes to jail.
I'm sure every Mom in America would choose "B" for her Son.

There's now aluminum baseball bat flashlights BTW. No idea if they're any good but there's a bunch of them of various designs and such:

https://www.amazon.com/CHICIRIS-Flas...dp/B08CKY2ZJ4/

[jsbhike]

I seem to recall C cell Maglites getting better club reviews than D cell. Think the pro's were smaller grip, lighter weight, and faster speed.