"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."
Japanese Admiral Yamamoto, 1941
"A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but a foolish man's heart directs him toward the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2:
ANOTHER officer shooting, brought to you by the "Vote for Joe... or ELSE" committee.
- Either you're part of the problem or you're part of the solution or you're just part of the landscape - Sam (Robert DeNiro) in, "Ronin" -
Fvck this “scared of the police” BS.
When you commit to the fight, you commit HARD. Bash his head or throat a few good times to disorient and put him belly down. Go for eyes. Fvck up them ankles.
I see why they tried OC but a good drive stun mixed with a flashlight tune up would have done more.
SEPARATE FROM THE VEHICLE.
A review board or professional standards can finger wag me all day long. Boo freaking hoo.
If someone is resisting that hard then there is a reason why.
Everybody is afraid of getting fired. Nobody is afraid of dying.
I mean, I can ALWAYS stud for tranny porn or do silly dances or three card monte at the train station for money. I’m not quite ready to die yet though.
You tune them up and say “SOOOOrrry ‘bout that” once they are successfully jailed.
Another case of cops getting killed because of the threat of getting locked up when their leftist leadership hangs when out to dry after use of force.
Its hard to hang on to shtuff when both your wrists no longer respond to your brains signals.
Honestly, pull out the only technology the Keystone Cops had to subdue a suspect, Hickory. Apply said hickory to wrists and knees, if he's still froggy crack him on the collar bones.
Begging someone to comply, only to be shot with your own guns has to suck.
Dude I will CRUSH ankles. Not that hard. Good luck trying to stand up. You bear down until something snaps or crunches. That’s how you know you are doing it right.
Are there issues with that in Tulsa though? The national climate is obvious, but standards and prosecution are local. And the suspect/POS is white.
Is it possible these officers were being too soft because the guy came across as a whiny little man-child and they didn't think he'd be as much of a threat as he was? Obviously 2020 is a terrible year for police, but I'm not sure how much this one is BLM-related.
My condolences to the slain officer's family.
I think there is a general mood in law enforcement now. I was always of the mindset of tried by twelve rather than carried by six, but still remember one supervisor in the 90s that told me I shouldn’t carry a knife because I wasn’t “certified” on its use and that would look bad if I ever stabbed a suspect with it. If it got down to a point I needed to fight with my knife...I wouldn’t give two shites how it looked!
Last edited by john armond; 09-15-20 at 21:07.
Having watched all that and having read the entire thread, What is the preferred method for dealing with this?
Talking him out didn't work.
Tazing him didn't work.tying to drag him out didn't work.
Spraying him with pepper spray didn't work.
I have a feeling the Sergeant was helping train this guy right before it started going off the rails.
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