CPS argues for "Qualified Immunity" in front of the 9th Circuit Court.

[Averageman]

These guys want to be able to lie and perjure to do their job.
The little Brunette in the right hand corner is a complete nut job and is pushing hard for the States right to come in to your home and take custody of your Children based on a lie.
This is how Big Government loves you.

[Straight Shooter]

This crap make my blood BOIL.
Id like to wear her ass out with a thorny switch.

[Averageman]

And although it is below freezing here in Cnt Tx. I would go go outside in my sweats and cut you one.
One summer I had to work in Colorado for a month, filled my fridge, all the bills paid and left my 17 year old Son home while I went to Colorado. I mistakenly asked my Best Friend to check in on my Son once a week.
My Friends wife insisted that he stay in their home while I was gone, or she wouldn't "allow" her Husband to check in on my friend and that she would call CPS.
I went over to CPS and asked if it was a problem to leave my Son on his on under those conditions, they said "No, it's not a problem, it can be done with a 16 year old."
I decided just to do it my way and not mention it again.
After Church we went to lunch and my Friends Wife introduced me to a CPS Attorney for the State. I felt she was attempting to intimidate me, So, I left.
That's a hell of a way to end a Friendship.

[Straight Shooter]

And although it is below freezing here in Cnt Tx. I would go go outside in my sweats and cut you one.
One summer I had to work in Colorado for a month, filled my fridge, all the bills paid and left my 17 year old Son home while I went to Colorado. I mistakenly asked my Best Friend to check in on my Son once a week.
My Friends wife insisted that he stay in their home while I was gone, or she wouldn't "allow" her Husband to check in on my friend and that she would call CPS.
I went over to CPS and asked if it was a problem to leave my Son on his on under those conditions, they said "No, it's not a problem, it can be done with a 16 year old."
I decided just to do it my way and not mention it again.
After Church we went to lunch and my Friends Wife introduced me to a CPS Attorney for the State. I felt she was attempting to intimidate me, So, I left.
That's a hell of a way to end a Friendship.

These self righteous busy bodies..i cant stand them. And Im glad you left that freindship, that was some dirty dog shit she pulled.

[Esq.]

Lawyer War Story time.....

A good friend of mine from law school moved to a Podunk Town in deep west Texas. His primary job there is NOT practicing law. Due to the dearth of local attorneys and as a way to supplement his income he allowed the local judge to appoint him as a CPS Ad Litem. Basically, when CPS would make a charge he would investigate on behalf of the Court and try to determine the facts. Sometimes they were as CPS said and a child was clearly in danger, sometimes they were just being A Holes. He would advise the judge on behalf of the childs best interest.

He gets appointed to a case where there is evidence of abuse- the allegation is that the mother slapped a little kid hard enough to bust her lip and leave a tiny bruise. The complaining witness is the sister of the mother.

My buddy goes (does his F'ing job) and interviews the complaining sister- who turns out to be a raging drunk, hates her sister and clearly has issues with her.

He leaves there unconvinced and goes to see the mother. The house is neat and tidy, the kids-3, are well fed and doing normal kid things. No prior allegations of abuse, no mysterious hospital records..... The mom is a single mother but she is working hard and "making it". He interviews her and she says that yes the child had a cut lip and bruise but she was running and fell- this is very believable as the child is at that awkward stage 3-4 years old where they are going full tilt everywhere and the brakes don't always work like they should etc....Anyone who has had kids has had them crack their noggin etc...it's just a part of growing up- skinned knees etc....

So, they show up at the courthouse and the CPS worker says, "So, you're on board I assume and we're going to take the child". My buddy say, "Ah, no, I've investigated and I don't find the allegations credible and so I think the child should stay put".... "As a father with children the same age it's my experience that they do fall etc....and get boo boos etc...."

The CPS guy without missing a beat says, "Then maybe we should come to your house".

Now, my buddy was in the Marines for several years and he is very fit, he's a country boy without much back up.

He looked down the courthouse hallway one way and then the other....seeing no one he jerked the guy off his feet by his shirt and pinned him up against the wall with his forearm and said, "Don't you ever threaten me again. There is a hell of alot of sand between here and Midland and they will NEVER FIND YOUR BODY MF'er"!

That's a no bullshit story. So, yea, there are really terrible things that happen to kids, but "the system" that should be helping them, is broken.

[BoringGuy45]

I am a clinician for 2 two people who lost their kids to DCF (our state’s name for CPS). Now, based on what I know of my clients, there is credible reason for them to have lost their kids, but DCF is not helping at all. I’ve contacted them repeatedly for information on the case and, though we have a release of information waiver from and to them, they refuse to tell me me anything even if it could be beneficial to helping my clients work on their behavior and get their kids back.

[TAZ]

Government agencies are not there to help anyone but the government. It’s as simple as that. The faster folks get that into their heads the better off they will be.

[Straight Shooter]

Lawyer War Story time.....

A good friend of mine from law school moved to a Podunk Town in deep west Texas. His primary job there is NOT practicing law. Due to the dearth of local attorneys and as a way to supplement his income he allowed the local judge to appoint him as a CPS Ad Litem. Basically, when CPS would make a charge he would investigate on behalf of the Court and try to determine the facts. Sometimes they were as CPS said and a child was clearly in danger, sometimes they were just being A Holes. He would advise the judge on behalf of the childs best interest.

He gets appointed to a case where there is evidence of abuse- the allegation is that the mother slapped a little kid hard enough to bust her lip and leave a tiny bruise. The complaining witness is the sister of the mother.

My buddy goes (does his F'ing job) and interviews the complaining sister- who turns out to be a raging drunk, hates her sister and clearly has issues with her.

He leaves there unconvinced and goes to see the mother. The house is neat and tidy, the kids-3, are well fed and doing normal kid things. No prior allegations of abuse, no mysterious hospital records..... The mom is a single mother but she is working hard and "making it". He interviews her and she says that yes the child had a cut lip and bruise but she was running and fell- this is very believable as the child is at that awkward stage 3-4 years old where they are going full tilt everywhere and the brakes don't always work like they should etc....Anyone who has had kids has had them crack their noggin etc...it's just a part of growing up- skinned knees etc....

So, they show up at the courthouse and the CPS worker says, "So, you're on board I assume and we're going to take the child". My buddy say, "Ah, no, I've investigated and I don't find the allegations credible and so I think the child should stay put".... "As a father with children the same age it's my experience that they do fall etc....and get boo boos etc...."

The CPS guy without missing a beat says, "Then maybe we should come to your house".

Now, my buddy was in the Marines for several years and he is very fit, he's a country boy without much back up.

He looked down the courthouse hallway one way and then the other....seeing no one he jerked the guy off his feet by his shirt and pinned him up against the wall with his forearm and said, "Don't you ever threaten me again. There is a hell of alot of sand between here and Midland and they will NEVER FIND YOUR BODY MF'er"!

That's a no bullshit story. So, yea, there are really terrible things that happen to kids, but "the system" that should be helping them, is broken.

THATS whats needs to happen on an EVERYDAY basis in a LOT crap going on here in America..I ALWAYS said most people do shit & start stuff because nobody SLAPS THE SHIT outta noone anymore.
Ive been dealing with a situation myself & had to "swell up" on somebody a couple weeks ago when I let it be known next time would JOB BE DAMNED.
So far, so good.

[MA2_Navy_Veteran]

That video was from... five years ago, and envolves California courts.

Think about that tiny little fact for a moment.

[SteyrAUG]

**** THAT SHIT. They do enough damage with the current ROE.

I think protecting kids is one of the most important things we can do, but too many Nifong quality social justice warriors out there. They are 100% convinced they are right, everyone is guilty and there is no changing their mind or admitting they are wrong.