Last edited by Ron3; 09-24-20 at 08:43.
Sorry, I have to take exception to the general recommendation from a number of responses herein that one shouldn’t modify a quality factory built AR rifle.
First, your fine factory gun need good optics. Iron’s are fine and I could shoot the M16 I carried in the early 1970’s to earn my “Experts” badge. But today, I can shoot a Red Dot or Holographic sight for CQB better and faster. And, to reach out and touch your target at distance, magnified optics are simply better that irons or dots.
The original M16 had a long fixed buttstock and 20” barrel. The hand grip angle is fine for that longer buttstock, but for today’s collapsible stocks, short barrels and CQB fighting a more vertical grip angle is preferred by many warfighters. Magpul MOE K2+, Bravo Campany and others do that job nicely.
Shooting a rifle is, generally, a two handed endeavor. There are many useful aids for that clumsy off hand. Vertical foregrips (if your AR isn’t a pistol), angled foregrips and gripstops. Their all useful, some better than others for certain situations. Take your pick.
Remember, the rats come out at night. If your going to use your AR as a defensive weapon, a quality light you can turn on and off at will may come in handy. What’s that safety rule, “know your target and what’s before and behind your target”? Light ‘em, if you have ‘em.
Lastly, for me, nobody in the world makes a better AR fire control trigger/hammer assembly than Geissele Automatics. Every AR I own, in any caliber, that I think I may someday need for serious work sports a Geissele SSA trigger, well except for a couple that came from the factory with a SSA-E trigger assembly.
Yes, the marketplace is full of all kinds of stuff one can use to hang on or modify their AR rifle. AR’s are Tinker-Toys for grown up boys and girls. Some of this stuff is crap, some make the AR platform rifle a more useful tool.
Last edited by Grim.Patriot; 09-24-20 at 11:40.
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If you really want to test it.
Go use it in a carbine match.
That is what I do.
Hey guys, this is going towards what to add verses testing a new rifle. Keep it on track please.
And for clarification if it wasn't obviously clear-I referenced whiz bang meaning the over whelming need to change buffers, springs, etc etc. and then the head scratch why it doesn't work.
GET IN YOUR BUBBLE!
It's really very simple. Lysander's post below is spot on-
Ammo Before Accessories. Shoot Before Modifying.I'm thinking fire a couple mags before any functional modifications to be sure it works.
Then change out the trigger, choose an optic, etc.
Then do the real testing. What's a good procedure?
I've had bad history with AR's.
It doesn't take much to make sure your AR is working right, as Lysander pointed out. For my own peace of mind, the first thing do is load a few mags with just a single round and shoot them for a lock back check.
Modifying your AR with trigger changes and the like is another story. You won't know how your AR shoots until you actually shoot it. Changing triggers is a good example. You won't know if a trigger change is needed or even wanted until you shoot your AR enough to find out. Yes, the standard AR trigger has noticeable creep and many feel like a dump truck dropped a load of gravel in the lower. But AR triggers can be smoothed out with grease and dry fire. Before dropping money on a new trigger, shoot enough to know what you want from that new trigger.
Let's get back to the reliability check. There are things you can do to eliminate problems before you fire your first round
1) If your AR does not come with a Colt or Sprinco extractor spring, replace it with a Colt or Sprinco extractor spring.
2) Check the length of your action spring. With a bit of research, you can find out what the minimum allowable length is for your spring type (carbine, A5 or rifle).
3) Clean out any factory applied preservative. You don't have to get it surgically clean unless you plan to use Frog Lube. If you do use Frog Lube, I will laugh my butt off when it turns gummy and your AR chokes. No Frog Lube!
4) Check the torque of your barrel nut, castle nut, muzzle device & gas key screws. You can look up the torque values, set a torque wrench and tighten each in turn and see if they move. Or just put a wrench on them and give them a bit of a turn. DO NOT EVER TORQUE CHECK IN A LOOSENING DIRECTION!
5) Check that both legs of the hammer spring are on top of the trigger pin.
6) Pull back on the hammer and pay attention to how much force it takes to cock it. If the hammer spring is weak, ignition will be erratic and affect precision and reliability.
7) Carbine buffers are too light. If your AR has a carbine bufer (carbine buffers do not have any H marking) plan on replacing it with an H2. (H buffers are good, H2 buffers are better).
8) Test fire with 5.56 spec ammo. Do not use reduced pressure ammo for testing (steel cased, ammo loaded for use in 223 chambers etc.)
Last edited by MistWolf; 09-25-20 at 22:58.
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Piggybacking off Mistwolf’d points 1, 2, and 7.... looking into guns I see shit the bed while relatively new, the most common cause in guns that I would expect to be high quality is a weak extractor spring. I dunno why this is a thing, but it is. The most common cause in “budget” guns and home “builds” with a low round count is a loose gas key. They usually also have a weak ass extractor spring. “Budget” guns are also commonly found to have a short action spring, and usually have a carbine buffer. Its not unusual to find a pile of cut corners and poor QC in these that may or may not be contributory.
Just my limited personal experience.
RLTW
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Disclosure: I am affiliated PRN with a tactical training center, but I speak only for myself. I have no idea what we sell, other than CLP and training. I receive no income from sale of hard goods.
A PSA upper should not have been unreliable and they have decent warranty service. They are not BCM, Colt, LMT, etc. and I'm not saying they are. I am saying they will function when clean, lubed, and fed decent ammo from reasonable mags.
What 1168 said about springs, gas keys, and buffers is spot on and certainly applies to PSA. In my limited experience, those changes keep the gun running when conditions are not ideal.
I gave my youngest son a 16" PSA Freedom Midlength after I swapped the action and extractor springs, installed an H1 buffer, and verified everything was tight/staked. Is it a Colt? No. Is it a POS? No. It went pew pew without issues until aliens disappeared all the ammo from the U.S.
Andy
Last edited by AndyLate; 10-16-20 at 08:27.
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